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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl

“Martyr clearly saw the millennium as a separate time period.”

Did Martyr also believe in two separate peoples of God and two separate plans for salvation? I don’t think so.

And as far as Eden is concerned, I’ve answered you already. But for the 3rd time, it was unique in that it was before the fall of man. There was no sin. There have been many unique periods of time and that was one of them for sure.

The problem I see with dispensationalism isn’t the times of testing. Of course there have been times of testing.

Again, the problem with dispensationalim is the teaching that THERE WERE TWO DISTINCT PLANS OF SALVATION AND TWO SEPARATE PEOPLES OF GOD. That belief came from Darby, not from the Bible.

The ONLY people of God from the very beginning were those who believed in Christ. Since the fall all who had faith in Christ were saved, not by their blood and not by the law.


123 posted on 11/05/2007 4:28:10 AM PST by tabsternager
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To: tabsternager; All; Uncle Chip; Iscool; xzins

Did Martyr also believe in two separate peoples of God and two separate plans for salvation? I don’t think so.

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I realize you’ve thrown Romans out of your Rubber Bibles in order to be able to post such outrageous nonsense. But it would be wise to put Romans back in and believe it’s truths as fact.

Guess what . . .

The 12 PATRIARCHS SITTING ON THEIR THRONES IN HEAVEN ARE NOT THE 12 DISCIPLES WHO SIT ON DIFFERENT THRONES.

Given your construction on reality—that makes no sense.

GUESS WHAT . . .

Given Almighty God being in charge of such things . . . HE CAN DO WITH HIS CHOSEN SEED OF JACOB WHATEVER HE WANTS TO DO WITH THEM TO ILLUSTRATE WHATEVER HE WANTS TO ILLUSTRATE OR JUST BECAUSE IT MAKES HIM HAPPY.

HE CHOSE to blind them and make them jealous of the Christian Believers being grafted in etc. UNTIL THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES BE COMPLETED . . . GOD DID. You got a problem with that—complain to God. Maybe He’ll hire you to rearrange things. But don’t hold your breath.

Of course such a construction on reality as the Dispy’s was known in the first century—it’s IN THE BIBLE—and NOT your Rubber Bible.

“. . . THEN THEY WILL LOOK ON HIM WHOM THEY PIERCED . . . “

Which word is such a challenge to the Replacementarian Rubber dictionary???

GOD HAS SCHEDULED THAT. You got a beef with God’s schedule—take it up with Him. BTW, that has yet to occur. But it will occur in THIS DISPENSATION—or shortly thereafter.


127 posted on 11/05/2007 7:13:24 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: tabsternager; Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Quix; BibChr; fortheDeclaration
unique periods of time

I see that you are using the expression "unique periods of time." You did not directly answer my question as to what you would call them, but this will suffice. We shall refer to them as "unique periods of time (UPT)."

Now, in the Eden UPT was there anything AT ALL different in the relationship between God and mankind than now entails?

Also, I have already pointed out to you that when all of Schofield's writings are put together, according to Ryrie, Schofield clearly believed that salvation has always been by grace through faith. Paul clearly says, "Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness."

Now, do you believe that Wilbur and Orville Wright are the last words on the aerodynamics of airplanes because they were among the 1st to write about the "practics" of it?

145 posted on 11/05/2007 12:02:46 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True support of the troops means praying for US to WIN the war!)
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