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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I'm say, DrE, that God in heaven CAN, and apparently DOES, communicate with the saints in heaven. He also communicates with the angels. The passages clearly indicate to me that those in heaven have not taken some kind of vow of silence. I agree that they glorify God. I also think that 1 Co 2:9 teaches a glorious life for those in heaven. That life will involve communication with the Lord. If the Lord communicated directly with Adam and Eve, then the Lord has established that He communicates with His children. If the Lord communicated with the prophets and apostles, then He has established that He communicates with His children. Rev 3 says, "20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. 21 To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches." That verse clearly indicates communication. Therefore, if I say to my Heavenly Father in prayer, "Dear Lord, let my grandpa know that I love him.", then I think that God CAN do that, and that He probably will do that.
935 posted on 10/29/2007 4:24:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True support of the troops means praying for US to WIN the war!)
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To: xzins; wmfights
I don't think any of us Protestants are saying God doesn't communicate with his saints in heaven.

Therefore, if I say to my Heavenly Father in prayer, "Dear Lord, let my grandpa know that I love him.", then I think that God CAN do that, and that He probably will do that.

I think if your grandpa is in heaven, he already knows you love him. There's no need at all for you to tell him that from his perspective. If it makes you feel better to speak to your grandpa in heaven, go ahead. I sometimes say something to my dad, and I have every confidence somehow he already knows my heart.

But none of that is by way of asking a saint in heaven to intercede for us with God and thus try to alter our relationship with God, which is what Catholics are doing when they pray to saints and ask them to become real intermediators between themselves and God.

Which is blasphemous.

Do you think the good will of your grandpa in heaven will change God's view of you? Does God not already know how your grandpa feels? In fact, wasn't it God who gave your grandpa's love to you in the first place?

949 posted on 10/29/2007 3:36:10 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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