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To: wmfights

So, you believe in “soul sleep?”

Is that what you are telling me?

Personally, I believe the Bible teaches that all who die in Christ Jesus are in the same situation as the Apostle Paul who said that he longed to depart and be with the Lord.

The passages in Revelation demonstrate that the dead in Christ are aware, in heaven, and with the Lord.


934 posted on 10/29/2007 4:13:06 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True support of the troops means praying for US to WIN the war!)
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To: xzins
Personally, I believe the Bible teaches that all who die in Christ Jesus are in the same situation as the Apostle Paul who said that he longed to depart and be with the Lord.

I agree. :-)

Maybe we are talking across each other over some fine point neither is seeing.

The passages in Revelation demonstrate that the dead in Christ are aware, in heaven, and with the Lord.

My only point from the beginning is that they were all dead at one time. Thus they are not alive. We are told not to:

Deut. 18:11 ...or one who calls up the dead.

You said, if they pray to someone in heaven through GOD it was okay. I was making the point that in no short order God gets dropped from the equation and that's how some of this Mary stuff probably got started.

Am I missing a point you are trying to get across to Me? I value your insights.

944 posted on 10/29/2007 9:16:44 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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