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To: ears_to_hear
Original sin is passed on by the Father.

Wrong. Original sin is not a "thing" that can be "passed" at all, but the lack of a thing. You don't transmit a lack, you fail to transmit the thing you're lacking.

We see in Hebrews that Levi, a distant descendant of Abraham, is said to have paid tithes to Melchizedek when Abraham was the one offering the tithes, not Levi. What this means is that there is biblical support for the idea that the sin nature was passed down through the father.

If that's the best support you can offer for it, you've truly proven how completely worthless sola scriptura is as a rule of faith.

The verse doesn't mention sin at all. It doesn't mention a "sin nature". It doesn't mention Abraham passing anything to Levi, but Levi passing something to Melchizedek through Abraham.

Actually, I have to correct myself. It doesn't prove how worthless sola scriptura is, it proves how completely the professed adherents of sola scriptura fail to actually practice it.

Compared to this, getting from Matthew 16 to Peter being the first Pope is child's play.

870 posted on 10/28/2007 1:58:59 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion

Are you Orthodox?


876 posted on 10/28/2007 2:09:50 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:......)
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To: Campion; ears_to_hear; XeniaSt; HarleyD; Uncle Chip; Quix
Wrong. Original sin is not a "thing" that can be "passed" at all, but the lack of a thing. You don't transmit a lack, you fail to transmit the thing you're lacking.

I'm always surprised when I see how far Catholics have come from their own faith.

The sin of Adam corrupted all men's nature. It is very much a "thing" -- it is a rebuttal of the truth, an obstinate will, a hateful longing for self and not God.

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." -- Romans 5:12-19


878 posted on 10/28/2007 2:11:23 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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