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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“St. Paul says ‘God sent his Son born of a woman, These words which I hold for true, really sustain quite firmly that Mary is the Mother of God.” (Martin Luther, Martin Luther’s Works, vol 7, pg 592)

“Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Lk 1:43)

“Is not this the carpenter, the Son of Mary?”
Gospel of Mark 6:3

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the lowly state of his maidservant;
For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. Luke 1:46-49

When the wine failed, the mother of Jesus said to him,
“They have no wine.”
And Jesus said to her,
“O woman, what have you to do with me?
My hour has not yet come.”
His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”

Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth.
She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne. The woman herself fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by God, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days.

Mary the Mother of God. The New Ark. The first true believer.

For truly I tell you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.”

Why do you limit Christ? Can He not share His Glory with others? I believe He is powerful enough to just do that.

Just as Samson was granted great strength. Or when God worked through Moses to part the Red Sea. Or as Jesus gave the apostles the power to forgive sin. God holds Mary in a special place prepared for her in His Kingdom.

Here’s a new one for you. Did you know John the Baptist never committed a sin in his entire life?


759 posted on 10/27/2007 6:23:25 PM PDT by Grudgebringer
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To: Grudgebringer; HarleyD; ears_to_hear; Quix; XeniaSt; xzins
Every person on earth should agree with Mary who stated the obvious -- "Do what Christ tells you to do." That's pretty much one of those "duh!" moments.

Mary was blessed by God to give human birth to Jesus Christ. Blessed. One syllable. Not two. She was blessed by God, as all Christians are blessed who have been given faith in His Son.

Mary was not the ark. Mary was sweet, but that doesn't make her a fruitcake.

761 posted on 10/27/2007 6:31:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Grudgebringer; Dr. Eckleburg
Why do you limit Christ? Can He not share His Glory with others? I believe He is powerful enough to just do that.

Only if He can lie? Can God lie?

Isaiah 42:8 I am Jehovah, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images.

Isaiah 48:11 For My own sake, for My own sake, I will do it; For how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another.

Just as Samson was granted great strength. Or when God worked through Moses to part the Red Sea. Or as Jesus gave the apostles the power to forgive sin. God holds Mary in a special place prepared for her in His Kingdom.

Do you have Statues of Samson or Moses in your church? No where does it say in scripture PROPERLY READ that Mary has a SPECIAL PLACE in fact scripture indicates that Christ holds all the elect in the SAME affection in which he holds his mother

Mat 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

Mat 12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

So I, and ever one of the elect ,are as loved of Christ as Mary

Here’s a new one for you. Did you know John the Baptist never committed a sin in his entire life?

Ahh another doctrine of man?

Your church does not agree with you.

578 Jesus, Israel's Messiah and therefore the greatest in the kingdom of heaven, was to fulfill the Lawby keeping it in its all embracing detail - according to his own words, down to "the least of these commandments".330 He is in fact the only one who could keep it perfectly.331 On their own admission the Jews were never able to observe the Law in its entirety without violating the least of its precepts.332 This is why every year on the Day of Atonement the children of Israel ask God's forgiveness for their transgressions of the Law. The Law indeed makes up one inseparable whole, and St. James recalls, "Whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.

So again , the ONLY one that COULD KEEP THE LAW PERFECTLY ( never sin) was God HIMSELF as Christ.

John was prophesied in the OT, He was a holy man that Christ recognized as the greatest man born of woman.. BUT no where does scripture say he never sinned..

774 posted on 10/27/2007 9:23:54 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:......)
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