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To: ears_to_hear

“Look For Christ not His mother , she does not save.”

She doesn’t save you are right.

You can go to Christ directly but I’ll go with His Mom to get to Christ and will see who gets their first. She can’t save, but she can stay His fury because of my sins. She can take my requests and prayers to him just as the Queen Mothers brought the requests of the people to the Juda Kings. She is my helper. Jesus time was not yet but He did what His Mother asked at the wedding of Cana.

None of this was dispute in the early Church even Martin Luther believed it.

I would like to invite you to pray to Jesus. Most Christians would agree that it is completely safe to pray to Jesus about anything. I would like to invite you to pray to Jesus about Mary. Simply ask Jesus to show you the truth about his mother. Ask Him to direct your thinking about her. Ask Jesus if his mother is alive with Him. Ask Him if Mary is praying for us. Just pray to Jesus about her. Try this every night for six weeks. I am thoroughly convinced that He will bring you to the truth about his mother. What harm could it do?


745 posted on 10/27/2007 3:30:55 PM PDT by Grudgebringer
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To: Grudgebringer; ears_to_hear; xzins; XeniaSt; HarleyD; 1000 silverlings; Sir_Ed; Quix
Simply ask Jesus to show you the truth about his mother. Ask Him to direct your thinking about her. Ask Jesus if his mother is alive with Him. Ask Him if Mary is praying for us. Just pray to Jesus about her. Try this every night for six weeks. I am thoroughly convinced that He will bring you to the truth about his mother. What harm could it do?

The "harm" is that Jesus has already told us who His mother is. You may have missed it. And no one needs six weeks of prayer to understand this. A few minutes, the Bible and the Holy Spirit will show you the truth.

"But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." -- Matthew 12:48-50


"And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother." -- Mark 3:33-35


And he answered and said unto them, my mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it." -- Luke 8:21

Just think of all the time I've saved you -- weeks and weeks that now can be put to good use in reading the Scriptures further.

754 posted on 10/27/2007 5:37:55 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Grudgebringer; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; xzins; XeniaSt; 1000 silverlings; Sir_Ed; Quix
Just pray to Jesus about her. Try this every night for six weeks. I am thoroughly convinced that He will bring you to the truth about his mother. What harm could it do?

No offense intended but that could be considered similar to asking someone to use a Ouiji Board for 6 weeks to see if you receive an answer. What kind of answer do you expect or what is the end result?

Everything we need to know is written in scripture. We don't go upon feelings but faith through the word. Someone recently directed me to a site that said:

I think that is rather good advice.
757 posted on 10/27/2007 6:14:05 PM PDT by HarleyD (Ezr 3:13 the people could not distinguish the sound of joy from the sound of weeping)
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To: Grudgebringer; ears_to_hear
You can go to Christ directly but I’ll go with His Mom to get to Christ and will see who gets their first. She can’t save, but she can stay His fury because of my sins. She can take my requests and prayers to him just as the Queen Mothers brought the requests of the people to the Juda Kings.

The only recorded request brought by a Queen Mother to a King in all of the history of Judah was that of Queen Bathsheba on behalf of Adonijah to King Solomon -- and it resulted in the death of Adonijah [I Kings 2:25]. Take a lesson --

790 posted on 10/28/2007 6:35:09 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Grudgebringer

Please don’t take this wrong, I am really trying to understand the doctrine and beliefs here—you go with Mary in prayers to have her as a ‘buffer’ between you and Jesus? Wouldn’t that put Mary in the role of High Priest/ess, then? I believe that Jesus Himself holds that role (’after Mechelzidek’) and when He died on the cross, the veil in the Temple was torn in two, signifying that there was no longer a need for anyone to come between man (all of humankind throughout the ages) and God because of Jesus’s sacrifice. Why do Catholics need a ‘buffer’ that can ‘stay His fury’?


796 posted on 10/28/2007 8:45:32 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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