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To: ears_to_hear; Grudgebringer
Dear Ears, I've been out all day. Just to respond to this quickly before I polish my trifocals and start my post-graduate textual and exegetical study of your other posts 8^P

You seem so exercised to prove stuff we all agree on, as if to say, "The sun is warm. Warm! Do you hear me? Warm! Following are 2.5 metric tons of proofs. Deny this if you can!" (Undeniably interesting, though.)

Look For Christ not His mother, she does not save.

Well, yes. The sun is warm, all right. Or, as the Church (the undivided Orthodox/Catholic Church) put it in the Liturgy maybe 17 or 18 centuries ago and continues to say to this day:

"By the prayers of the Theotokos, O Savior, save us."

The underlined refers to our one and only Savior, Jesus Christ our Lord.

For a little more background on this, look here and along the thread thereafter, to see how your fellow Christians prayed in the early centuries, and continue to this day.

Point of infoirmation: do you believe in the Apostles Creed? The Nicene Creed? And/or the Communion of Saints?

And: will you pray for me--- I pray you?

744 posted on 10/27/2007 3:27:07 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever things are true, whatever are noble, just, pure, lovely--- brethren, think on these things.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; ears_to_hear

It was a very nice epitome of OT typology of Christ, though.


746 posted on 10/27/2007 4:36:20 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Where did Jesus tell us to pray to his mother to be saved? There were many errors and alot of false teachings in the early church.

The fact some one said that 1800 years after Christ does not mean it is true


768 posted on 10/27/2007 8:28:47 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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