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To: Kolokotronis

So you do not believe that each member of the trinity is equal with the other?


626 posted on 10/26/2007 4:56:40 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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Essence
The word “essence” may be defined as the intrinsic or indispensable properties that serve to characterize or identify something.[1] Essence describes what it is to be God. The three persons of the Godhead share the same essence, and God’s essence is immaterial. With this understanding, the doctrine of the Trinity continues to assert monotheism, an essential and easily found belief within Scripture.


627 posted on 10/26/2007 4:58:41 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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To: ears_to_hear

“So you do not believe that each member of the trinity is equal with the other?”

Equality is not an attribute of the ousia of God. All the hypostases are of one ousia. What does “equality”, which implies separateness, have to do with the Trinity?

Here, try this from the Orthodox-Reformed Dialog in Switzerland in 1992:

“Since there is only one Trinity in Unity, and one Unity in Trinity, there is only one indivisible Godhead, and only one Arche (arche) or Monarchia (monarchia). As such, however, Gregory the Theologian reminds us, “It is a Monarchy that is not limited to one Person” (Or. 29.2). “The Godhead is one in Three, and the Three are One, in whom all the Godhead is, or, to be more precise, who are the Godhead” (Or. 39.11). “Each person is God when considered in himself; as the Father, so the Son, and as the Son, so the Holy Spirit; the Three One God when contemplated together; Each God because consubstantial; one God because of the Monarchy. I cannot think of the One without being enlightened by the splendour of the Three; not can I distinguish them without being carried back to the One” (Gregory the Theologian, Or. 40.41). “In proclaiming the divine Monarchia we do not err, but confess the Trinity, and Trinity in Unity, One Godhead of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (ten triada, monada en triadi, kai triada en monadi, mian theoteta patros kai huiou, kai hagiou pneumatos) (Epiphanius, Haer. 62.3). The mia arche or Monarchia is inseparable from the Trinity, the Monas from the Trias. As such the Monarchy of the Father within the Trinity is not exclusive of the Monarchy of the whole undivided Trinity in relation to the whole of creation. Hence all worship and glorification by the creature is offered “to God the Father through the Son and in the Spirit” or “to the Father with the Son and together with the Holy Spirit”, that is, to the one indivisible God who is Three in One and One in Three, the Holy Trinity who is blessed for ever.”


633 posted on 10/26/2007 5:09:11 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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