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To: Mad Dawg

Okay, you don’t do bible study that much.

You ask others to pray for you because God tells us that it has an effect and gives us examples - for ex. asking the elders of a church to come and pray over a sick person. However, if you READ THE BIBLE EXAMPLES you find that every example where a person asks another to pray for them, they are both physically alive on earth, and they are both living people, body and soul together!!!! There are NO examples where one person is physically alive asking a person that is not physically alive. Nobody was ever instructed or encouraged by Christ or any apostle to ask dead Christians to intercede for them.

And don’t try to say ‘but the dead Christians are alive in Christ’ - all that would prove is that you don’t understand the difference between when someone uses the term to mean physically dead as opposed to spiritually dead.


161 posted on 10/25/2007 7:28:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man
Okay, you don’t do bible study that much.

That's a personal comment and not appropriate. How many hours a week do you think I spend studying Scripture? On what basis do you form your opinion of the amount or sufficiency of my Bible study,. You wouldn't be suggesting that everyone who studies the Bible "enough" would agree with you, would you?

If so, then you can just dismiss every disagreement with you on the same grounds. I've heard the argument before. When my daughter was five, she would say that everything she didn't like was "stupid." Among adults I usually get this kind of argument from liberal college professors.

Am I right in concluding from your second paragraph that you are conceding that it is appropriate to ask SOME others to pray for you? So you are abandoning the argument about why one should ask for the prayers of others when one can go to Jesus directly? In fact, you are saying or implying that that question was a red herring and the real issue is elsewhere.

As for your third paragraph, I haven't even entered the discussion at all, and seeing that the tone of the thread is antagonistic, I don't propose to enter it.

My comment was, and nothing you have subsequently said has argued against it, that you changed the subject from our initial question about intercession to a NEW and DIFFERENT question about the any kind of communication with the saints in heaven. And I didn't raise that argument for anything other than accountability. You raised the question; an answer was attempted; you ignored the answer and raised another question. That was all I said. You can reasonably infer other things from my frank (and grateful) declaration that I am a Catholic, but I haven't taken a particular stand in this discussion yet. I have only noted a particular effort at what looked like a dodge and not like a discussion among Christians.

Our having a different notion of Scriptural authority from ours does not necessarily imply that we don't study Scripture "that much".

190 posted on 10/25/2007 8:09:14 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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