Posted on 10/23/2007 4:25:18 PM PDT by NYer
Unfortunately, even in parishes where there are no announcements or only brief announcements after Communion, there are always people who leave as soon as they receive. I guess they pray privately after Communion while they’re driving home!
“Scots-Irish Presbyterians.”
That would explain it. How ‘bout the Catholic Irish? Wasn’t the Klan just a bit against those Papists? This of course is not to say that churches weren’t burned and priests tarred and feathered in the North. My great great grandfather fought back as a howling nativist mob burned down the Catholic Church in our town, cut the fire hoses when the fire brigade showed up and tarred and feathered the priest. He was nearly killed and was never quite right after the beating he got.
“So in what Southern city was your father told to not shine shoes in front of the hotel?”
My grandfather and in a very Northern city.
Keep working on them! At their age, they'll probably eventually pester their mom into letting them be baptized.
It sounds as though the mom is not just lukewarm or inattentive, but actively resisting. Is she not just non-Catholic, but anti-Catholic? Mixed marriages are always tough . . . even when it's as slight a difference as Methodist and Episcopalian (which is how we started out).
If that's the best evidence you can come up with of anti-Greek discrimination in the South, then your case doesn't survive summary judgment.
My great great grandfather fought back as a howling nativist mob burned down the Catholic Church in our town
Again, in what Southern city did that occur, or again are you trying to bring in irrelevant evidence?
Wasn’t the Klan just a bit against those Papists?
Which Klan are you talking about? The original Forrest bunch, no. The Indiana crowd of the teens and 20's, yes, they brought with them their northern anti-Semitism. The Southern nightriders of the 50s and 60s - no, except insofar as they found a Catholic trying to help organize the Blacks. It was the Black churches which were getting bombed, not the Catholic ones.
That’s what I was thinking too!
We have SOME but not too many sneaking out before the dismissal hymn is over . . . there has already been some pointed comment made and it seems to have had an effect.
My position is, I'll spend some time listening to the postlude (yeah, we have a postlude and there are actually folks still around to hear it), go down to the choir room and hang up my robe, visit with some friends, maybe grab a cup of coffee from the kitchen. By then all the traffic in the parking lot is GONE, and good riddance. No need to sprint to try to beat the Baptists to the Waffle House, 'cause they're all already there (this is an 11:30 Mass and by 12:30 all the Baptists around here are long gone.)
None of 'em are missed particularly, but the Midwestern Klan was more a collection of professional criminals than anything else.
Is your point that there was not any discrimination against Greeks in the South? Just what sort of “evidence” do you want presented on this sort of forum? I’ve already seen variations on “Some of my best friends were Greeks” and “We so loved our Greek neighbors” Come on. If you think you will convince me that there was never any discrimination against Greeks in the South it won’t work. Now have I ever experienced discrimination in the South because I have a Greek mother? No. Have I heard of such discrimination? Yes; as recently as Tuesday from the godfather of my sons who just got back from Virginia. Sadly, I cannot put him under oath, record him and post it here.
You know, P, this whole silly discussion started because another poster defended indefensible Roman communion practices by implying that the Greeks might have provided a better example, apparently down South, if they weren’t so unfriendly at their church. I suggested a reason for that unfriendliness. You don’t want to accept that which is fine by me. It also doesn’t surprise me.
There weren't many Greek neighbors, so there wasn't much interaction. A few guys that ran cafes, one of the local pharmacists, that was about it.
Folks discriminate against the group they feel threatened by. In most of the south, there weren't enough Greeks to constitute a threat. The only place I can think of, off the top of my head, where there was a sizable concentration of Greeks was Tarpon Springs, Florida.
Wisconsin, Nebraska, they’re all out there somewhere. :)
And, everyone knows that anywhere in flyover territory is exactly like the rest of flyover territory. LOL
“And, everyone knows that anywhere in flyover territory is exactly like the rest of flyover territory. LOL”
Its not?
Bwhahahaha
Oops, wrote my earlier reply before my coffee.
“The idea that you can is blasphemy. It’s an insult to Christ. The bread in Communion is not Christ’s body. The bread represents Christ’s body.”
No, the bread literally becomes the Body of Christ, as Christ himself said.
Look, darn it, that's a foul blow.
I gave you an example - just ONE example among a number of well respected Greek citizens (I could have named a doctor, another couple of lawyers (I mostly know lawyers), a businessman whose son was one of my high school classmates) but probably the best known - of a good man, a pillar of the cathedral here, who was respected by all, re-elected repeatedly to public office, and memorialized by not only the entire GA General Assembly but arguably the most powerful man in Georgia at the time, and all you can say is a nasty mocking variation of "Some of my best friends are NEEgroes?"
That's not just anecdotal evidence of a personal friendship -- that's widespread public support and admiration for a man by Southerners who obviously didn't give a darn where his ancestors came from, even if it WAS Ohio. And I linked to an actual copy of the resolution, so there's your hard evidence.
Now, are you going to take back and apologize for your nasty wholesale slur on the South?
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