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To: Logophile
Hi Logo,

Hence, Jesus Christ is an unchangeable being who changed. How do we resolve this apparent contradiction?

Through the theology of the Holy Trinity, hypostatic union, divine essence, etc.

It's quite far from LDS teaching of course, but it's complete. You could look for "An Exact Exposition of the Orthodox Faith" by St John Damascene for the long form.

On another tack, it is pretty much universal in all religions that God is infinite in being (The Doctrine of the Holy Trinity also holds this). This of course is what makes it monotheistic.

I believe we've touched this point before, but LDS, I think you would agree, is polytheistic, multiple Gods, if as others have stated (some) men are destined to become God(s).

85 posted on 09/17/2007 1:17:47 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
I believe we've touched this point before, but LDS, I think you would agree, is polytheistic, multiple Gods, if as others have stated (some) men are destined to become God(s).

I am just courious if it is One God as you claim than why did not our Jewish brothers and sisters have a problem with the Messiah the only begotten Son of God the Father in Heaven?

Do you know what it means to be joint heirs as in Romans 8?

Romans 8
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

So what are you D-fendr, if you are lead by the Spirit of God chop liver?

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

If the Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God what are you D-fendr Chop liveer?

Luke 12
42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?

43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.

44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.

Man, a Spirit Child of Heavenly Father

87 posted on 09/17/2007 2:31:33 AM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to be honest in all of your dealings!)
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To: D-fendr
Through the theology of the Holy Trinity, hypostatic union, divine essence, etc.

I cannot claim for myself any deep knowledge of those doctrines; however, if we accept the idea of a hypostatic union—and could understand it—the human nature of Jesus certainly changed; the divine nature presumably did not. Stated that way, that is not too different from what I said previously.

It's quite far from LDS teaching of course, but it's complete. You could look for "An Exact Exposition of the Orthodox Faith" by St John Damascene for the long form.

Thanks for the recommendation. I will look it up.

On another tack, it is pretty much universal in all religions that God is infinite in being (The Doctrine of the Holy Trinity also holds this). This of course is what makes it monotheistic.

Much depends on what you mean by "infinite." We believe God is infinite in goodness, power, glory, knowledge, and so forth. However, we believe him to be finite in the sense that he possesses a physical body. Therefore, he occupies a particular point in space; he is not omnipresent.

I believe we've touched this point before, but LDS, I think you would agree, is polytheistic, multiple Gods, if as others have stated (some) men are destined to become God(s).

No, I would not agree that we are polytheistic. As I have said before, polytheism connotes the worship of multiple gods, usually personifying the forces of nature. Mormons most assuredly do not worship the Sun, the Moon, or the stars, or a Pantheon of gods.

Some polytheists also worship their ancestors; we do not. Nor do we worship angels or prophets.

We are taught to worship God the Father, in the name of the Son, by the power of the Holy Ghost. We see the three as constituting one governing power in the Universe. In that sense, we are monotheists.

However, some prefer to reserve the term monotheism for Judaism or Islam (which do not recognize Jesus as divine) or for Trinitarian Christianity (which considers Jesus as God). For them, I will admit to being a tritheist.

115 posted on 09/17/2007 7:23:54 AM PDT by Logophile
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