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To: restornu
That was not what I said!

I said in the OT Moses spoke to Jehovah (Jesus). and than I pointed out in the NT and JSH that Heavenly Father introduce his only begotten Son.

Ok, let's review.

Someone posted:

Those who claim Joseph Smith saw the Father and the Son, fail to grasp basics in Scripture or intend to deceive.

YOUR response to that was:

You forget that Moses did see God face to face and even return with a red face and covered his face

You say no man has seen God and that is true but God can elevate a man from his mortal status to a transfiguration for a period of time.

It is quite clear that you are stating that Moses saw GOD, and you are trying to use that as "proof" that indeed Joseph Smith did see GOD along with His Son, Jesus Christ. You used and many other Mormons have used this to rebut Christians who bring up the Biblical passage that says "NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD". The typical response is "well, Moses saw God "face to face", so it's obvious man CAN see God, so that is why the argument that Joseph Smith could not have seen God is bogus". Indeed, you try to explain how it is that Moses and Joseph Smith could have seen God if the Bible says NO MAN has seen God by coming up with "God can elevate a man from his mortal status to a transfiguration for a period of time." Again, you are obviously stating that this is what happened to Moses and Joseph Smith, allowing them to see GOD.

Now then, I will simply point out what I pointed out before. According to LDS doctrine, Moses DID NOT SEE GOD. And DON'T play word games here. When you say GOD, you and every Mormon is talking about GOD the Father, not His Son, Jesus Christ, so don't even go there. According to LDS doctrine, Moses saw Jehovah and NOT GOD the Father. So how does Moses seeing Jehovah in any way lend credibility to Joe Smith's story that he saw GOD the Father???

It doesn't. I'll repeat my earlier statement. Mormons who try this argument are either trying to be deceptive or don't know their own doctrine.

Now then, would you agree that Moses did NOT see God the Father and therefore in NO WAY proves that Joe Smith nor any other man has seen the "face" of God?

428 posted on 09/20/2007 8:24:59 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN

Stop twisting our words to fit you senario!

You want to believe in “3 in one oil” fine I know different and was taught by the Holy Ghost not some traditioin of men!

This senarios of your is all wet!

Please stop trying to tell the LDS what they believe because you are unable to grasp!

You got your 3 in one oil I have the Godhead.

What you have don’t interest me, and if you have something good what I have should not interest you, also the Lord said, this is His business not yours to judge another.


435 posted on 09/20/2007 9:33:34 PM PDT by restornu (Press Forward Mitt!:))
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