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It never ceases to amaze me that Mormons do not comprhend the demonic nature of their quote: "Moroni 10: 4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost." ... It never occurs to the deluded that this passage is self-contradictory! 'Ask God if these things are not true then He will manifest the truth of it unto you?' If the thing is untrue how can the truth of it (it is not true) be manifest as truth? Well, of course, by embracing a gross lie! The very work of demons for human consumption! It is apparently impossible for Mormon adherents to see how the verse in James is worded without guile while the verse in the BM is worded dripping with deceitful guile. Of course, when one opposed to the deceit in Mormonism shows the deceit to the adherent, then it cannot be God using the opposition to the heresies to show where the deceit is to be found! It is pure anti-Mormonism!
361 posted on 09/19/2007 10:44:43 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: MHGinTN
Yeah, it never ceases to amaze me that asking God is such a terrible thing. Who'd a thunk!

Ask, ye shall receive, seek and ye shall find, knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

The power of prayer is very real my FRiend!!

All the best.

365 posted on 09/19/2007 11:03:41 AM PDT by sevenbak (Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. ~Psalms 85:11)
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So true my FRiend.
372 posted on 09/19/2007 11:52:00 AM PDT by JRochelle ( Winkle Paw is a Hillary donor.)
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To: MHGinTN
It never ceases to amaze me that Mormons do not comprhend the demonic nature of their quote: "Moroni 10: 4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost." ... It never occurs to the deluded that this passage is self-contradictory! 'Ask God if these things are not true then He will manifest the truth of it unto you?' If the thing is untrue how can the truth of it (it is not true) be manifest as truth? Well, of course, by embracing a gross lie! The very work of demons for human consumption! It is apparently impossible for Mormon adherents to see how the verse in James is worded without guile while the verse in the BM is worded dripping with deceitful guile. Of course, when one opposed to the deceit in Mormonism shows the deceit to the adherent, then it cannot be God using the opposition to the heresies to show where the deceit is to be found! It is pure anti-Mormonism!

It never ceases to amaze me how some anti-Mormons look for demonic influences where none exist.

Asking if something is not true is an idiom or figure of speech. It is a way of stating or asserting that something is true. It is often used in rhetorical questions, to which no answer is expected:

18 Is not the LORD your God with you? and hath he not given you rest on every side? (1 Chr. 22:18)

12 Hath not the same Hezekiah taken away his high places and his altars, and commanded Judah and Jerusalem, saying, Ye shall worship before one altar, and burn incense upon it? (2 Chr. 32: 12)

6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee? (Deut. 32:6)

Similarly, the same idiom is used when the questioner expects an answer, but already has a good idea of what that answer will be:

Is it not true that you are the Masked Marauder, Mr. Smith?

And I should like to ask them if it is not true that in a great multitude of instances, they have no expectation at all that the members of their church will wake up and be influenced by the truth, and will do what they know to be their duty. (Charles G. Finney, Holding the Truth in Unrighteousness, part 2)

He who disbelieves it, let him go round to every embassy in Europe and ask if it is not true. (Matthew Arnold, Culture & Anarchy, p. 326)
The latter example is particularly interesting because it parallels the usage of Moroni 10:4. Arnold argues that something is true (as does Moroni) and suggests that the reader can obtain confirmation by asking someone in a position to know.
376 posted on 09/19/2007 12:43:54 PM PDT by Logophile
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Just curious why you felt the need to ping JR?

Did some one offend you?


380 posted on 09/19/2007 1:32:18 PM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to do the right thing!)
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