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To: Logophile
We believe in the God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. What we reject is the doctrine that they are three Persons in one Being.

This is another case of Mormons abandoning their earlier teachings and "revelation" from the Book of Mormon, which CLEARLY teaches that Jesus IS God in the flesh.

You see, when Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon he hadn't yet come up with the idea of the Godhead actually being multiple gods.

This is why in 1835 the "Lectures on Faith," which were originally delivered before a class of the elders, in Kirtland, Ohio, were printed as scripture in the Doctrine and Covenants. In these lectures it was definitely stated that God the Father was a personage of spirit.

In the fifth lecture we find this statement about the Godhead: "... the Father being a personage of spirit, glory, and power, possessing all perfection and fullness, the Son, who was in the bosom of the Father, a personage of tabernacle... "(Doctrine and Covenants, 1835 ed., p.53).

The Lectures on Faith not only taught that God the Father is a "personage of Spirit," but also that God is "omnipresent"—i.e., present everywhere at the same time (Ibid., pp.12, 26).

These Lectures on Faith were printed in all of the early editions of the Doctrine and Covenants, but in 1921 they were completely removed and have not appeared in subsequent editions. WHY? On page 58 of the 1835 edition of the Doctrine and Covenants the following question and answer appear: "Q. Does the foregoing account of the Godhead lay a sure foundation for the exercise of faith in him unto life and salvation? A. It does."

Now that the Mormon church teaches a plurality of Gods and that men become Gods, these lectures are considered "not complete" as to their teachings on the Godhead. The truth of the matter is that they contradict what is presently taught by church leaders with regard to this subject.

To avoid "confusion and contention" over the Godhead the Mormon leaders slyly removed the Lectures on Faith from the Doctrine and Covenants. This was done in spite of the fact that Joseph Smith himself had considered them important enough to include. Since these lectures were about seventy pages long, this amounted to a major deletion. The Lectures on Faith had been voted on unanimously by the conference assembled August 17, 1835 to be included in the Doctrine and Covenants. NO documentary evidence exists to show that they were voted on by a general conference of the Church to be omitted in the 1921 and all subsequent editions of The Doctrine and Covenants.

321 posted on 09/18/2007 11:53:21 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN

Amazing because you can with your finite mind come up with a senario it must be so!

You throw those words around but you have no comprehention of the mind of God nor could you until you humble yourself to him so he can teach or impart to you.


324 posted on 09/19/2007 12:33:26 AM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to be honest in all of your dealings!)
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To: GLDNGUN
You really should read up on this topic, in our CURRENT scriptures. There is nothing to hide or even contradictory, try tackling this one. At first glance, you may think I’m bolstering your point, but keep reading. This explains much about worldwide confusion on this topic.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Compare with this, from the Book of Mormon: 2 Nephi 31: 21

And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the away; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen.

and another...

3 Nephi 11:27 And after this manner shall ye baptize in my name; for behold, verily I say unto you, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one; and I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one.

They are one, our own scripture speak of this. The question is, what does “ONE” mean?

That also is answered both in the NT and the D&C:

John 17: 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

D&C 35: 2 I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was crucified for the sins of the world, even as many as will believe on my name, that they may become the sons of God, even one in me as I am one in the Father, as the Father is one in me, that we may be one.

350 posted on 09/19/2007 9:42:09 AM PDT by sevenbak (Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. ~Psalms 85:11)
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