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To: Cvengr
There is one unique Son of God which He has given, who is also one with the Father. There are many sons of god, but only one which is the great “I am”.

When people seek access to God the Father by any other, then they are antichrist.

You lost me here what people, what other means and what antichrist?

Why is this even in this coversation?

Jesus Christ has come as God incarnate, one with Him, not to be confused as a created being.

Jesus always was eternal and also is the spirit of man endless.

Adam and Eve enter earth through the Garden of Eden, Adam progenitors were born into the world through earthly parnents.

Jesus was born into the earth of parents One being the heavenly Father and the other an earthly Mother.

Even though spirits are eternal all earth bodies are formed. man is a child of God but not a divine Child as Jesus.

243 posted on 09/18/2007 8:57:18 AM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to be honest in all of your dealings!)
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To: restornu

There you go again, slipping in the pagan notion of Continuity of Being. Man is an image of God in both body and spirit. God the Father does not have a body, for the body is prepared for the Son by the Father.

Heb 10:5
(5) Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Through his body, man rules nature.

“The spirit was created for God’s sake, the body for
the spirit’s sake, and the world for the body’s sake;
so that the spirit might be subject to God, the body to
the spirit, and the world to the body.”[Victor St Hugo]

Man’s dominion is only fulfilled by the Incarnation of Christ.

1Co 15:22-28
(22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
(23) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
(24) Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
(25) For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
(26) The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
(27) For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
(28) And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Heb 2:5-9
(5) For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
(6) But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?
(7) Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honor, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
(8) Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
(9) But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Now with regards to the confused understanding being promoted regarding the lineage of Adam and Eve. They were not born of parents, all humans are made from Adam’s single body. The entire race of humans are made to be redeemable by one man and Savior who can die for the many. Such a racial species is discernible from all other creatures such as angels, animals and other pagan constructs.

The parents of our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus, were Mary and God, the Holy Ghost. Mary as a woman was unable to pass the genetic old sin nature to the Son, not because she lacked an old sin nature, but because the old sin nature is passed from the genetics of man to the offspring. God the Father created and imputed human life upon the human soul of Christ Jesus at birth. Since our Lord and Savior had no old sin nature, there was nothing to impute original sin into or any affinity for sin, therefore he was the only second Adam to be born with a human body, soul, and spirit. The chromosomes for Christ were provided by God the Holy Ghost and Mary to provide the virgin birth.

This humanity did not preexist, but the Son, the Word pre-existed. Accordingly, Jesus Christ bypassed the angelic creation and was incarnated as human, the second Adam.


246 posted on 09/18/2007 10:30:23 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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