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To: frtom; CTrent1564
FYI: The Catholic Church did recognize Holy Orders of the ECUSP until they started ordaining women.

Not quite right but not quite wrong. The Bull Apostolicae Curae indeed was issued by H.H. Leo XIII in 1896 and held that Anglican orders had been invalid since the change in the words of consecration of bishops instituted by King Edward VI (or, more properly, his radical protestant advisors, since he was 9 or so at the time and had no opinion other than what he was told.)

However, there were talks in the works in the late 60s for a concordat, along the lines of what was being discussed with the Lutherans, including (rumor had it) a revisiting of Apostolicae Curae. But the ordination of women stopped that in its tracks, and the Bishop of New Hampster killed it stone cold dead.

24 posted on 09/10/2007 6:26:43 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Sorry, my Catholic history isn’t that good. All I remember was reading something about it.

“Every validly consecrated bishop, including heretical, schismatic, simonistic or excommunicated bishops, can validly dispense the Sacrament of Order, provided that he has the requisite intention, and follows the essential external rite (set. Certa). Cf. D 855, 860; CIC 2372.” 1952 Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Dr. Ludwig Ott, pp. 456.

Maybe that was what I was thinking of.


29 posted on 09/10/2007 7:13:03 PM PDT by frtom
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