[annalex]

Since we also have the example of the Good Thief, who did not take the Eucharist, we understand that in John 6 Jesus is talking of ordinary means of salvation, but extraordinary means exist also. It also follows logically from His sovereignty. This is literal reading of the entire New Testament; it is not an unthinking robotic reading.

[armydoc]

Since we also have the example of the Good Thief, who did not take the Eucharist, we understand that in John 6 Jesus is talking of ordinary means of salvation, but extraordinary means exist also. It also follows logically from His sovereignty. This is literal reading of the entire New Testament; it is not an unthinking robotic reading.

Interesting that Catholics seize on "this is My Body"; no context of scripture required, don't you believe His words, He meant what He said, etc. etc. Context only becomes useful for explaining away inconvenient words that were just as plainly stated.

BTW, The Good Thief is a great example, isn't he? No baptism. No good works. No Eucharist. Just repentance and faith. The real "ordinary means" of salvation.