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To: ArrogantBustard; nmh; Gamecock
You have repeatedly accused Catholics of praying to a false prophet named "Fatima". In the Name of Jesus, I again demand that you substantiate your accusation. In simple words: prove it.

The issue of whether the Mary apparitions are really Fatima, the daughter of Mohammed (or not) came up several months ago, on this thread. It doesn't prove the allegation, but it does prove that nmh isn't making it up. I documented the allegation's being quoted in a Zenit news article here, here and here.

I'm hurt that no one pinged me, nor Gamecock (author of that older thread) to this conversation :(

151 posted on 08/17/2007 11:29:42 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (As heard on the Amish Radio Network! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1675029/posts)
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To: Alex Murphy; ArrogantBustard; nmh; Gamecock

So you’re going to duped by wacko Iranian TV claims???


155 posted on 08/17/2007 11:32:32 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Alex Murphy
Dear Alex Murphy,

At your links (which link to plethora of more links), I see where it clearly states says, “Iranian TV: Our Lady of Fatima is Really Fatima, Daughter of the Prophet Mohammed.”

However, Iranian TV is hardly considered a reliable part of the Magisterium of the Holy Catholic Church. Thus, it hardly substantiates the claim that CATHOLICS worship Fatima. Rather, it substantiates the claim that SOME MUSLIMS believe that Mary at Fatima was actually Fatima at Fatima.

That doesn’t really touch on Catholic belief or teaching at all.

There is this little piece from one of your links:

“To quote a Catholic news organization, ‘Our Lady of Fatima is really Fatima, daughter of the Prophet Mohammed.’”

However, I couldn’t find the “Catholic news organization,” nor could I find the overall context of the alleged quote. Perhaps the “Catholic news organization” was reporting the Muslim assertion that Mary at Fatima was really Fatima at Fatima.

Again, there is a difference between what Catholics believe and what others may believe about the same phenomenon. If some Muslims believe that Mary at Fatima was actually Fatima at Fatima, well, we won’t chop their heads off for so asserting.

But Catholics don’t believe that, and thus, don’t worship Fatima (nor do we worship Mary, nor do we venerate Fatima), the claims of (the non-magisterial, from the Catholic perspective) Iranian TV notwithstanding.

It’s just an ugly, anti-Catholic, bigoted falsehood.


sitetest

157 posted on 08/17/2007 11:43:19 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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