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To: Mad Dawg

Not sure what you are talking about in your post all Im saying is you have to quit caring what some organisation brings from out of the depths of their own doctrine, and you must look to SCRIPTURE and SCRIPTURE only!!!!!! There is no purgatory or second chance!!!!!! Absolutly nowhere is that teaching in scripture!!!! but what is, is Christ said that those who do not believe who I say I am you shall surely DIE IN YOUR SINS!!!!!! better not forget that one!!!!! He also said after death was the JUDGEMENT, NOT a second chance not purgatory (which was made up by church dogma) SCRIPTURE and SCRIPTURE ONLY!!!!!!


31 posted on 08/15/2007 5:54:54 PM PDT by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Wakeup Sleeper
all Im saying is you have to quit caring what some organisation brings from out of the depths of their own doctrine, and you must look to SCRIPTURE and SCRIPTURE only!!!!!!

As a matter of fact, that is NOT all you are saying. What you actually wrote included:

... there is no second chance nonsense ...
Now, the teaching about purgatory has nothing whatsoever to do with any idea of any kind that after death you get a second chance. So,
- either you are bringing up a new topic and hijacking the thread,
- or you are expressing an opinion about the doctrine of purgatory which is not what we teach at all.

- If you are hijacking the thread, why?
- But if you are arguing against something we do not teach, with whom are you arguing? We agree there is no second chance.

So that's what I was saying. Instead of making an argument, you say some need to stop fooling themselves. Fine. Let's start with knowing what the doctrine we're condemning is. If you think you know what we teach when you don't who is fooling himself? If somebody comes up to me and tells me I'm fooling myself because I believe such-and-such when I do NOT believe such-and-such, what am I to think or to do? How can I proceed

When I look at Scripture I find: Who is this that darkens counsel with words without knowledge? - Isaiah 24

And allow me to suggest that exclamation points and capital letters do not make an effective substitute for thoughtful discussion or a smidgen of research and are not persuasive.

So when you go on to characterize the body of Christ as "some organization" and the guidance of the Holy Spirit as "brings out of the depth of their own doctrine", you've already made it seem like, well, like it's going to be hard to reach the point where was can actually converse. I see no interest in knowing what we think and consequently no ability to criticize it.

Kindly excuse the bluntness. You began the exchange by suggesting that those who believe something that you don't believe are fooling themselves. Maybe it's time for a do-over, huh?

39 posted on 08/16/2007 3:22:48 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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