[Mershon]

Please ping to those who might be interested.

[Pyro7480]

Catholic ping!

[murphE]

"Two years ago we taught the same thing we teach today and we were bad. Today we teach the same thing we taught two years ago and we're not that bad. Ten years ago we were straight from hell - and we haven't changed... fifty years ago we were the same as everyone else, thirty years ago we were renegades, twenty years ago we were straight from hell, we were considered excommunicated, ten years ago we were considered no longer excommunicated, but not in full communion, and now.... we're not in full communion but we're not that bad. Now [today] we're really not that bad we're actually pretty nice people.

[but] We haven't changed and we cannot change. We stand firmly for the truth. And we do not budge in our holding of the truth. And in due time the Church will reform. The day that we no longer hold the truth is the day that the grace of God will abandon us, and the day that we need to be abandoned. But as long as we hold the truth God will bless us."

Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer on the Motu Proprio 7/15/07

[vox_freedom]

Excellent article!!! Thanks.

[Piers-the-Ploughman]

thanks for the article. too bad the good pastor has such a negative view of the sspx. i can understand feelings of ambivalence but the reaction is very excessive. Does he speak the same way about the protestants he ecumenizes with?

[BlackElk]

Have you got any document in whuch either John Paul II or Benedict XVI reversed or modified in any way John Paul II's definitive excommunication of the bishops and adherents of SSPX or reversed the ruling that SSPX is in schism??? I did not think so. If it ever does happen, I shall surely accept papal authority. Meanwhile, NOTHING by Dario Cardinal Castrillon de Hoyos, by Monsignor Perle (who is less supportive of the excommunicated SSPX schismatics than you suggest but what else is new?) or by Mershon, by the paleo and pro-schismatic Remnant or by others who sympathize with the poor excommunicated schismatics (poor, poor insolent taste-offended babies suffering under those mean old popes!!!) will mean a thing to those who obey papal authority. None of these subordinate transgressors have any authority whatsoever to reverse or modify papal rulings. When any of them get to override the power of the keys, I feel sure that God will let them know. This is just one more Mershon pro-schismatic propaganda piece to mislead the actual Catholic faithful.

While Fr. Newman is wrong as to the acceptability of attendance at SSPX Masses, you also fail to note that contributions by actual Catholics are limited to defraying the actual costsof the Masses. Eastern Orthodox Masses are also valid despite the Eastern Orthodox being in schism from Rome.

Mershon: I wonder how a priest serves in SSPX without becoming an excommunicated SSPX adherent. When I confess my sins, I promise to avoid the near occasion of sin, how about you and the SSPXers? Without territorial faculties, do SSPX schismatic priests enjoy an ordinary right to hear confessions? When the schismatics and their excommunicated ringleaders in ecclesiastical crime reject papal authority as they have, how do they obtain territorial faculties? Just asking!

[TradicalRC]

SSPX "Renegades" or "Brothers"?

Not that the terms are mutually exclusive...