Posted on 07/30/2007 10:18:00 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Consider passages such as ‘for thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night’ (Ps 90:4).
Why can’t He both be within time and outside of it?
I’ve often thought of God’s pleasure/displeasure as well.
When I think of God’s anger and displeasure, I think of the nature of God as our Father, and of His perfect love for us. He is always displeased with the sin we commit, just as I would be displeased with sins my own children commit.
Yet, do I ever stop loving my children or caring deeply about them because they sin? I’d say that my displeasure comes because I love them and want the best for them.
If my children are truly seeking to follow in the right path, then do I let their stumbles along the way distract from that? When Paul talks of love in that wonderful passage from 1 Corinthians, I’m always struck by the line, “Love keeps no record of wrongs”.
What a wonderful thought and example of what our love should be.
Amen Biker.
He not only knows the end of the movie, He was the Director, Producer, Editor, and Caterer!
This is a key statement you make.
It speaks to the desire of intimacy that God seeks to have with us. Now think about that comment! God "SEEKS" to have with us. That indicates that at one point He doesn't have it, and then at another point He may have. God waits!!! In order to wait, time must pass.
My non-complete thought on this issue is this: Although God exists in eternity past, eternity present, and eternity future, He, at the same time, can experience intimacy with me inside the time frame He has created that I walk in.
Now, how much of the knowledge God has, since knowing of all eternity from being there, and how it may affect the present intimate experience He has with me, this I don't know, because as you point out Paul's words, I'm looking through a glass...
I thought this “Slice” might be apropos to this discussion:
http://www.rzim.org/slice/slicetran.php?sliceid=1472
Spirit LIFE is more alive and less restricted, yet we have so little tangible evidence of this level of reality, by our standards derived from our manipulations of spacetime. We have the biblical stories of One who came to this limits well and lived and died and rose again from the dead, to occupy a physical body capable of 'beyondness' to these limits, appearing inside a locked room thus it would appear by some means passing through solid walls then becoming solid again. In the Old Testament we have the scene of a hand appearing to write upon a wall, while the remainder of the being to which the hand was attached remained in a state of reality outside the sensing of the people in the room.
It is a seeming paradox that God is greater than the creation yet can inhabit the creation and move freely in and out of the limits well. And even more paradoxical, this Creator actually tells us He desires to commune with us ... created beings!
When we think of power, we conceive of the authority to order others about, or we think of the ability to plug into sources to do work our limited power of animal self cannot achieve or achieve as quickly. But their is a power which seems to whisp about as if mere breeze, a thing as tenuous as a thought. Yet this power is greater than all the forces of the limits well we inhabit.
The writer is wrong.
riter is rong?
What if PREdestination(knowing the end of a journey) meant that "He (Christ) came to SAVE(destination-heaven) His people(God gave Him before the foundation of the world) from their sins(the fallen state of man)? and His people, while here on earth, have the free-will(their choice) to choose whether or not to serve(keep his commandments) Him.
Once you entered in youd find the sign: Welcome Chosen Ones!.
I love that one!
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