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To: ovrtaxt

“But His actions here, the miracles, healing, His words, were a result of a man who spent time with His father and operated in perfect obedience.”

Because he acted in obedience to the Father does not mean his actions on earth were not those of a God as well as those of a man.

Again...I think it is a disjoined view of Jesus to separate his Divine from his human nature.
He was - at all times - both. It is not mutually exclusive.

And while we were created in God’s “image”, we were not created to be “God.”

Christians were not able to perform miracles because they became god themselves, they were given those gifts through God - who consists of 3 persons.

So I think this debate is really about the Trinity and the role each of the 3 persons has in the Godhead.

I don’t see in any of the passages cited that Jesus somehow became unaware of his divinity, or somehow lost his divine attributes.


27 posted on 07/28/2007 7:22:53 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

There is another way to look at Jesus. It may seem foreign at first, but food for thought. There is an alien intelligence “PETA” group billions of years old. Using the same technology that others use to impregnate human females then harvest the fetuses before birth, they did an in vitro impregnation of Mary the host mother wth the fertilized egg that was to become Jesus, Gabriel telling her what he would be : the savior of his people, the messiah.

Thus he came as a missionary to these human Animals, to show them the way to the Quantum Mechanical world that is to come(complete mastery of nature). He was introduced to it after the 40 day fast and rejection of satan, the spiritual criminal. The phrase : “and the angels(read intelligent aliens)ministered unto him” has a much richer meaning than it may first appear. He was shown ALL their QM technology and how they used it.

Arthur Clarke’s third law : a sufficiently advanced technology will seem like MAGIC to a less advanced technology. Thus, production and control of matter waves enables the walking on water and floating up into the clouds(anti-gravity). The feeding of the 5000 with bread and fish = an advanced xerox machine and FedEx/UPS fast delivery. Right now a guy at Cornell Univ is working on a “3D fabber”.

Appearing/disappearing before the disciples = supermomentum state(W=P)wherein all the fermion particles/matter waves of the body are slam-frozen to 0 deg K and thus virtual invisibilty. The medical miracles : ultra-fast transport of the body to an operating table/surgery and ultra-fast return, almost in the blink of an eye(there is no such thing as “time” in and of itself). The slam-freezing of his corpse and returning it to the cat-scan record taken in the transfiguration on the mount(the shroud of turin is a clear photo).

Quantum Mechanics/nanotechnology may be a foreign language/mindset to you but 2+2=4. It all adds up. We’re on the cusp of entering that higher state of existence, that QM world to come. Jesus left as our ambassador to those trillions of higher civilizations out there in the universe(in my father’s house are many mansions)and soon the cosmic battle line will sweep past the earth, destroying it but leaving in its wake a higher existence that HE described so well. Are YOU ready for it?


67 posted on 07/28/2007 12:01:45 PM PDT by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: Scotswife

I don’t disagree with anything you stated.

But you’re missing my point. During His time here on Earth, He operated, acted, did what He did, as a man anointed with the Spirit, not as God— even though He is indeed both.

This is an important distinction, and a powerful fact to recognize. We can do the same works He did, and even greater. Not because we are God, but because we are also men anointed with the Spirit.


71 posted on 07/28/2007 3:10:43 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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