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Interesting thought: did Jesus have the highest IQ ever possible?

And what's it mean if you say that He did not?

1 posted on 07/28/2007 6:17:18 AM PDT by xzins
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Ran across this on the web and thought it was interesting...


2 posted on 07/28/2007 6:18:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

I have always thought of Jesus as the smartest man ever because I’ve always thought of him as part of the Holy Trinity which created the universe....”through him all things were made”

I didn’t realize there was ever a debate about how smart Jesus is.


3 posted on 07/28/2007 6:26:28 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: xzins

Well of course He was a genius. What, this is even debatable?


6 posted on 07/28/2007 6:46:02 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: xzins; All

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:2
He was in the beginning with God.

John 1:3
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

John 1:4
In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

John 1:5
And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

John 1:6
There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

John 1:7
This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe.

John 1:8
He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

John 1:9
That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

John 1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.

John 1:11
He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.

John 1:12
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

John 1:13
who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

John 1:14
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
(NKJV)

5 SOLAS!


8 posted on 07/28/2007 6:52:30 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: xzins

“SUGGESTED RESOURCE: For a great short book on Jesus as a philosopher,
who valued reasoning and who held a well-developed worldview, see
Doug Groothuis’ On Jesus, in the “Wadsworth Philosophers Series”
(Wadsworth, 2003”

I haven’t read the book yet...but here’s a link for anyone that’s interested.

On Jesus (Wadsworth Philosophers Series)
by Douglas Groothius
http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Wadsworth-Philosophers-Douglas-Groothius/dp/0534583946/ref=sr_1_76/002-8975660-2481603?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1185631696&sr=1-76


20 posted on 07/28/2007 7:10:50 AM PDT by VOA
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To: xzins
Simply, earthly concepts do not pertain to Him.


30 posted on 07/28/2007 7:25:23 AM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: xzins
Interesting thought: did Jesus have the highest IQ ever possible?

Never thought about it.

And what's it mean if you say that He did not?

First (put that way) it means you're claiming to know something that it's impossible for you to know.

More generally, it could mean that you don't think IQ is particularly important in the situation.

31 posted on 07/28/2007 7:27:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Go ahead and water the lawn - my give-a-damn's busted.")
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To: xzins
did Jesus have the highest IQ ever possible?

Intelligence quotients didn't exists 2007 years ago.

Why would it become a subject of thought now?

32 posted on 07/28/2007 7:29:01 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: xzins
I hadn't really thought about it. My only immediate thought is, define smart. Book smart? Street smart? Smart according to whom? Our concept of smart or His? It is interesting to think about and should make for an interesting discussion here but, just to put this in perspective, doctrinally and eternally speaking, it's not relevant to our salvation.

That said, there is a big difference between intelligence and wisdom even in our understanding of the concepts. One can be highly intelligent and yet be a complete fool. There are also those who the world would not consider to be highly educated who are, never-the-less, wise in use of what learning and/or intelligence they have. Wisdom is knowledge appropriately applied and that is what is truly important about Christ. He had infinite knowledge and the infinite love, compassion and comprehension to apply it appropriately.

33 posted on 07/28/2007 7:29:05 AM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney for President 2008)
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To: xzins

Come on....he’s like, God, part of the Trinity, his intelligence far surpasses those of mere mortals.....


37 posted on 07/28/2007 7:40:51 AM PDT by lookihaveaswordinmybelly (And they say 15 year olds won't understand.....yet here I am!)
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To: xzins

Worst. article. ever.


38 posted on 07/28/2007 7:42:00 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." - Dumbledore)
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To: xzins

He was either the smartest man who ever lived - or a naïve madman. He doesn’t leave much middle ground.


42 posted on 07/28/2007 7:43:49 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Reagan; He's the second coming of Dole.)
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To: xzins
Let's see.

Fact: Created heaven and earth and everything in them.
I'd say He was above average.

46 posted on 07/28/2007 7:46:52 AM PDT by trickyricky
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To: xzins

I agree that Jesus was smart, but His miracles were due to supernatural authority, not “knowing how” to change the physical world, as though we could do the same thing if we just knew enough facts. If you want evidence that Jesus was highly intelligent, I’d instead appeal to the numerous layers and nuances of His teaching, and the way He was able to confound the leading scholars of the day, addressing their trick questions, etc.


49 posted on 07/28/2007 7:51:09 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: xzins
This is a fundamentally silly question. Intelligence is completely disconnected from what one knows, or knows how to do. Intelligence is about one's ability to deduce conclusions and infer generalizations -- in other words, how well one learns.

Christ's human-scale intelligence is made unmeasurable by His prior, Godly knowledge and power. What, after all, was there for Him to learn?

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Eternity Road

54 posted on 07/28/2007 8:12:27 AM PDT by fporretto (This tagline is programming you in ways that will not be apparent for years. Forget! Forget!)
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To: xzins

I think of Jesus as my savior, and the savior of the human race. He transcends human genius.


63 posted on 07/28/2007 10:34:59 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: xzins
"Master of Molecules “At the literally mundane level, Jesus knew how to transform the molecular structure of water to make it wine. That knowledge also allowed him to take a few pieces of bread and some little fish and feed thousands of people. He could create matter from the energy he knew how to access from ‘the heavens,’ right where he was."

It was The Spirit which that performed these deeds according to the will and faith of the son

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing . . .

Joh 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

72 posted on 07/28/2007 4:26:49 PM PDT by freedom9 (Truth Judgement Justice)
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Crazy article ping.


74 posted on 07/28/2007 5:59:12 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: xzins

Is faith/faithe to be equated with intellect?


82 posted on 07/28/2007 7:10:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: xzins

Paul.


90 posted on 07/28/2007 9:20:09 PM PDT by onedoug
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