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To: HarleyD
If life was fun everyone would be in Orlando.

No wonder I'm so joyful- I'm in Tampa, right next door. Certainly couldn't be because of my salvation, nope.

While sin no longer holds power over us, we're still prone to sin and we do sin, which is what I believe you meant to say.

I meant to say what I said. We are free from the law of sin and death. Sure we sin, but so what. If we confess it, we're cleansed. Beats the alternative!

As for the rest of this conversation, we're saying exactly the same thing, just from different points of view. I choose to enjoy my warfare and my assignment. You don't. If you prefer to be baptized in lemon juice, good for you. I'll take new wine.

What's really underlying this whole thing, this whole thread, is the tendency for some Pharisees to find fault with someone who's making a difference and being productive in the Kingdom. It's disgusting and reprehensible. No wonder people dont' cruise the religion threads more often, if this is the type of crap they're going to be exposed to? Why don't you reserve your little judgmental attitudes for yourself and satan? You'll be improved, and he will be toast. You aren't making any difference in the world by criticizing a fellow servant. Criticize yourself.

43 posted on 07/31/2007 8:04:39 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: ovrtaxt
What's really underlying this whole thing, this whole thread, is the tendency for some Pharisees to find fault with someone who's making a difference and being productive in the Kingdom.

I'm delighted you're making a difference. You must be very proud.

51 posted on 07/31/2007 4:35:10 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: ovrtaxt
If life was fun everyone would be in Orlando.

No wonder I'm so joyful- I'm in Tampa, right next door. Certainly couldn't be because of my salvation, nope.


All believers don't live in Tampa. Some live in the Sudan.

What's really underlying this whole thing, this whole thread, is the tendency for some Pharisees to find fault with someone who's making a difference and being productive in the Kingdom. It's disgusting and reprehensible. No wonder people dont' cruise the religion threads more often, if this is the type of crap they're going to be exposed to? Why don't you reserve your little judgmental attitudes for yourself and satan? You'll be improved, and he will be toast. You aren't making any difference in the world by criticizing a fellow servant. Criticize yourself.

I think what's being criticized is the shallow approach to chrisitan living which is being presented.

You'll find that neither Jesus, nor any of His Apostles exhibited 'life is a party' attitudes.

Unfortunately, many of those who are baptized into 'life is a party' chrisitanity ... will later find that its anything but that ... and will either be halted or stymied in any further christian growth.

Certainly our lives are better than they were prior to our conversion ... by virtue of our blessed hope, ... but we still have trials and tribulations.

Consider the martyred and persecuted early church. We do them injustice when we trivialize our calling.

65 posted on 08/02/2007 8:54:30 AM PDT by Quester
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To: ovrtaxt
While sin no longer holds power over us, we're still prone to sin and we do sin, which is what I believe you meant to say.

I meant to say what I said. We are free from the law of sin and death. Sure we sin, but so what. If we confess it, we're cleansed. Beats the alternative!


Not quite reflective of the Apostle Paul's view ...
Romans 7:21 So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me.

22 For in my inner being I delight in God's law;

23 but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members.

24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?

66 posted on 08/02/2007 9:09:31 AM PDT by Quester
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