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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; jo kus; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD
Nah, you are forgetting a key difference between Reformers and at least the Latins, if not the Orthodox as well. We do NOT believe that a mere claim of belief makes one a true believer (if even temporarily). Our side believes that the Bible is clear that there are some who claim belief, but are in fact false believers. Therefore, to even have a chance at being true, any claim would have to be in the CORRECT Jesus, as He is revealed in the Holy Scriptures

They use the same scripture to prove their point, FK. They just concentrate on different verses. Just as Portestants favor +Paul in their disagreement with the Aposotlic Church.

9,994 posted on 10/27/2007 8:58:10 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; jo kus; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD
They use the same scripture to prove their point, FK. They just concentrate on different verses. Just as Protestants favor +Paul in their disagreement with the Apostolic Church.

We don't favor Paul, your side just comparatively overlooks him. :) As far as the LDS are concerned, as far as I know they have more than one "holy scripture", and they together do not portray a Christ that you or I would recognize. From a Mormon website:

Unlike many other Christian churches, Latter-day Saints believe that revelation from God has not ceased and that the canon of God's revelations is not closed. We believe that we should live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God (Deut. 8:3, Matt. 4:4) and that God continues to reveal His words and to make sacred scripture available today as in days of old. One precious example of this is The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ, an inspired translation of an ancient document from people in the New World who knew of the Messiah and had prophets of God among them. The Book of Mormon and the Bible together are part of the sacred writings accepted by Latter-day Saints. They are both part of the word of God, and we believe that God will yet reveal many other great things in the future.

As for JWs, my understanding is that they use the New World translation, which I don't think either of us could accept. Here is an excerpt from bible-researcher.com about the New World translation:

The New Testament adheres to the text of Westcott & Hort. It is a fairly literal translation, for the most part, but it does have some peculiar non-literal renderings. These are the result of the committee's efforts to conform the version to the doctrines of the Jehovah's Witnesses. "Jehovah" is given as a translation for kurios (Lord) in the New Testament whenever the Father is meant, but not when it refers to Christ, the Son. "Torture stake" is put instead of "cross" because the Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the cross is an idolatrous symbol introduced by the Roman Catholic Church. And because this sect teaches that Jesus Christ was merely an angel, the version reflects a Unitarian bias in several places.

So, I would disagree that we and the LDS and JWs rely on similar "enough" sources to arrive at our conclusions.

10,082 posted on 10/29/2007 9:02:04 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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