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To: Forest Keeper; D-fendr; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; wmfights; 1000 silverlings
Kosta, I "think" you yourself have said that your own faith defies objective reason. You can't "prove" that your faith is reasonable by human standards

Faith, hope, belief is not a proof. If I say I believe, I don't have to prove anything. If I say I know for a fact, then proof is required.

8,655 posted on 10/10/2007 5:00:03 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Faith, hope, belief is not a proof. If I say I believe, I don't have to prove anything. If I say I know for a fact, then proof is required.

THough certainly if one decided to start looking at evidence the Eastern church wins there too; there is no archaological or historical evidence that anything like protestantism existed until the 15th century. (The sad but true is no less striking than the science which proves that the South Americans are not the lost tribe of Israel and there is no evidence of a pre-colonial modern civilization in North America much to the chagrin of mormons...)
8,657 posted on 10/10/2007 5:05:01 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kosta50; D-fendr; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; wmfights; 1000 silverlings
Faith, hope, belief is not a proof. If I say I believe, I don't have to prove anything. If I say I know for a fact, then proof is required.

What sort of proof do you require? Is the Bible good enough? If it is, then that is what we use to prove that we all can have assurance. If the Bible is not good for proof in your view, then nothing can be proved in Christianity. I believe the Bible SHOULD always be good enough for proof as to other Christians.

8,697 posted on 10/10/2007 5:39:17 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: kosta50

“Faith, hope, belief is not a proof. If I say I believe, I don’t have to prove anything. If I say I know for a fact, then proof is required.”

Not if you’re a Marcionite Gnostic, my friend. If you combine that with your favourite revolving heresy of the day, there’s no telling what theology you can concoct.


8,735 posted on 10/11/2007 6:51:50 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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