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To: Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; irishtenor; wmfights
We are told that first it must be filtered through the Gospels, and with any apparent discrepancies, the solution is to toss the OT passage

Christ and His ministry in the Gospels is God's full revelation to man, FK. To recognize and accept this is to become a Christian. Everything is then seen through His eyes and words. The Jews did not receive full revelation until Christ, and all that was written was leading, foreshadowing His coming. As such it cannot be used on the save level.

But we have been through this. I could just as easily say to the snide remark about Orthodox not having any OT that I wonder how much Christianity is left in Protestants, since they put so much emphasis on the OT and Paul. Clearly such remarks are not made to further any discussion, which seems pointless anyway, but to insult.

8,317 posted on 10/05/2007 5:52:51 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; irishtenor; wmfights; MarkBsnr
Christ and His ministry in the Gospels is God's full revelation to man, FK. To recognize and accept this is to become a Christian. Everything is then seen through His eyes and words. The Jews did not receive full revelation until Christ, and all that was written was leading, foreshadowing His coming. As such it cannot be used on the save level.

Well, according to you the Jews had no revelation at all because they did not have the Gospels. To say that the Gospels are the FULL revelation of God to man is to disagree with 99% of the rest of Christianity. It is certainly not the position of your Church. I could find nothing on the GOAA site distinguishing the Gospels away from the rest of the Bible in terms of revelation. The following is from that site: Rt. Rev. Maximos Aghiorgoussis, Th.D., Bishop of Pittsburgh

a) The Holy Scriptures -- The Holy Bible (or Scriptures, the Old and New Testaments) is the most authoritative part of the Sacred Tradition of the Church. As with today's laws that govern the life of our modern society, these laws are the product of the life of the community; however, once produced, they are placed above and regulate this life. So it is with the Holy Scripture: once established by the Christian community, led by the Holy Spirit of God, then Scripture is placed above and regulates the life of the Christian community. The Bible is the product and the epiphenomenon of the life of the Church, being also the work of men. But it is also the work of the Holy Spirit of God, working in this life of the Church. This is why the Church is subjected to the authority of the Bible. (emphasis added)

You see, if the WHOLE Bible is the work of the Holy Spirit, then the WHOLE Bible is a revelation of God. The Gospels cannot be a full revelation by themselves. I don't understand how you could call non-Gospel passages "God's word", but not recognize them as "God's revelation". That makes no logical sense.

8,559 posted on 10/08/2007 4:27:15 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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