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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; HarleyD; wmfights; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan; P-Marlowe; ...
FK: "Sure, and since we do not earn our way into Heaven because of our works, then God is impartial with how He deals with all of His children, and He is also impartial with how He deals with all those not His children.

Of course, and that's exactly what I asserted when I said that God is just to the righteous and the wicked, that He is just to all. ...... You may have joined the discussion out of context and missed that part, so now who knows how many posts later we come back to the very initial statement that didn't ring true in some ears.

Well, actually I was practicing "Patriarch-script" to see if we would agree. :) If we do in the words I doubt very much we do in the meaning. I was saying that God chooses His children. In terms of Heaven or hell, those He chooses He loves equally. Those He doesn't choose He "doesn't love" equally. He deals with each group impartially.

... In fact, I reminded her (post #6,983) that the NT unambiguously says partiality is a sin, "But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors." [St. James 2:9]"

It may be a sin for humans, but Commandments are from God to men, not from God to God. Did Jesus sin by telling the disciples to pick and eat grain on the Sabbath? Or, was He exempt because He is Lord of the Sabbath? If God showed no partiality at all, then, for example, all of us would be equally talented in everything.

So, now we are throwing in another condition in order to prove the unbiblical assertion that God is partial!? Bias cannot be honest. What if the witness thinks that what the accused did is not really a crime but he knows that the society says it is, and he begs to differ?

Bias cannot be honest, really? The first presidential election I got a shot in was Reagan-Mondale in 84. 4 years earlier I had played Reagan in the big school debate as a freshman in high school. I was a solidly biased conservative. Did that make my vote for him in 84 dishonest? Bias certainly CAN be used in a dishonest or negative way, as in your witness example. All I'm saying is that it isn't automatically the case, and of course God is impervious to human misuse of the word.

8,233 posted on 10/04/2007 2:07:49 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; HarleyD; wmfights; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan; ...
God chooses His children. In terms of Heaven or hell, those He chooses He loves equally. Those He doesn't choose He "doesn't love" equally. He deals with each group impartially

God gives to the righteous and the unrighteous. In fact God's love is unconditional, impartial. God also gives in abundance, more than enough for the whole world (just like the basket of fish and bread that fed the multitude).

But God's love is not like our love, borne out of a need, desire, fear, emotions, desire to be safe. God has no such needs. He saves those who are righteous in His eyes and not because He "likes" them. It's not an emotion, or opinion: it's a fact: those who are righteous in His eyes are truly righteous even if we don't see them as such.

Likewise, the wicked are lost because they remain unrepentant and God see them as such, not because He doesn't "like" them.

8,303 posted on 10/04/2007 8:26:10 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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