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To: D-fendr; suzyjaruki; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD

“Yes, everyone has a conscious (except, debatably sociopaths). Have you ever met or do you know of anyone who could not choose whether or not to sin? Every time?”

What difference does it make if one sins once or every time? The conscience, like nature and the law are just witnesses given by God’s providence to turn mankind to Himself. There is no salvific grace in any of them except to point one to God, who alone can rid one of the guilt of sin. Anyone can do good deeds but no good deeds can restore fellowship with God; all that they do for the unbeliever is ameliorate to some worthless degree the eternal suffering in hell. All that the conscience can do in the unbeliever is bring the terrible weight of guilt without any source of relief except through chemistry or mysticism.


8,142 posted on 10/03/2007 5:29:59 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan
What difference does it make if one sins once or every time?

The difference matters because of what I was told was the difference between the elect and non-elect.

Because I was given the statement that the non-elect can ONLY choose to sin. And I was given a long list of the traits of the unregenerate that included: "the hearts of Unregenerate Men are only and always set upon the doing of evil. " and worse.

I do hope this explains my point.

And, do you know anyone who this and all the characteristics listed of the unregenerate? Do any Calvinist know or ever have known anyone that does?

8,145 posted on 10/03/2007 5:56:44 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: blue-duncan
The conscience, like nature and the law are just witnesses given by God's providence to turn mankind to Himself. There is no salvific grace in any of them except to point one to God, who alone can rid one of the guilt of sin.

AMEN!

8,171 posted on 10/03/2007 6:46:59 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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