I would refer you to suzy's most excellent post of 8060:
God must change this nature. You believe we cooperate in this changing. We believe that God simply changes us.
You gotta admit it’s pretty semantical.
You have free will which you will always use to choose sin, unless God changes your free will, without your involvment.
Does God do this against our will?
God is a hijacker of people, in other words.
We’re back to the robot slave scenario again, I’m afraid. I think back to the article on Spurgeon.org that the good Dr. E. had such trouble with.
“Hyper Calvinism is a system of theology framed to exalt the honour and glory of God and does so by acutely minimizing the moral and spiritual responsibility of sinners.”
Does that come across in anyone’s posts here? There are many posts that openly state that man has no conscious role in his own salvation. God elects and man has no choice. If man has no choice, then he has zero moral and spiritual responsibility.
Westminster Confession
Chapter XXXIII
Of the Last Judgment
I. God has appointed a day, wherein He will judge the world, in righteousness, by Jesus Christ,[1] to whom all power and judgment is given of the Father.[2] In which day, not only the apostate angels shall be judged,[3] but likewise all persons that have lived upon earth shall appear before the tribunal of Christ, to give an account of their thoughts, words, and deeds; and to receive according to what they have done in the body, whether good or evil.[4]
II. The end of God’s appointing this day is for the manifestation of the glory of His mercy, in the eternal salvation of the elect; and of His justice, in the damnation of the reprobate, who are wicked and disobedient. For then shall the righteous go into everlasting life, and receive that fulness of joy and refreshing, which shall come from the presence of the Lord; but the wicked who know not God, and obey not the Gospel of Jesus Christ, shall be cast into eternal torments, and be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power.[5]
III. As Christ would have us to be certainly persuaded that there shall be a day of judgment, both to deter all men from sin; and for the greater consolation of the godly in their adversity:[6] so will He have that day unknown to men, that they may shake off all carnal security, and be always watchful, because they know not at what hour the Lord will come; and may be ever prepared to say, Come Lord Jesus, come quickly, Amen.[7]
Objection the 1st: “all persons that have lived upon earth shall appear before the tribunal of Christ, to give an account of their thoughts, words, and deeds; and to receive according to what they have done in the body, whether good or evil.” If they have no moral choice in their deeds because God withheld His Saving Grace, of what justice is the judgement? What is the difference if they are Judged or not, since the non elect are going to hell and the elect are going to Heaven?
Objection 1a) If deeds are not of interest, then why are deeds judged before the Tribunal of Christ? What is the purpose of the Judgement?
Objection the 2nd: “but the wicked who know not God, and obey not the Gospel of Jesus Christ, shall be cast into eternal torments, and be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power.” If they were prevented from knowing God by God withholding His Grace from them, of what justice is the judgement? What is the purpose anyway, since the preordination of the elect and the non elect is written on their souls before they were even born. The ticket is already stamped.
Objection the 3rd: “As Christ would have us to be certainly persuaded that there shall be a day of judgment, both to deter all men from sin...” But by Reformed definition, the non elect cannot be deterred from sin. This makes no sense.
Please explain "naturally" wanted to please God.
Does that mean "without God"? Well, that goes without saying. However, the Spirit blows where HE wills, and thus, writes within even the pagan a law on his heart. God's Spirit enables man to desire to please God, as noted in Hebrews 6.
Regards