But is it taught that it's predetermined whether God's hands will take them? That they may have be born for hell no matter what?
I think that's different, isn't it?
God will put everyone in the correct spot. In the end everyone will be where they truly want to be. There won't be anyone in hell saying, "I wish I had listened to Aunt Mrytle so I'd be sitting on a cloud somewhere playing a harp."
God is, after all, a God of love.