FK responded: But what we are talking about is salvation and entry into Heaven. It is the difference between necessary AND sufficient, and necessary BUT insufficient.
What difference does that make - whatever that means? The concept of repenting for something you haven't done yet is ridiculous. How can you be sorry for something you haven't done yet? There can be no sorrow where there was no action done yet.
Also, salvation and entrance into heaven are two different things, so I've been told by Protestants.
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What difference does that make - whatever that means? The concept of repenting for something you haven't done yet is ridiculous. How can you be sorry for something you haven't done yet? There can be no sorrow where there was no action done yet.
Repentance is necessary to take on life long true faith. It is not something we do piecemeal to satisfy a debt for each of our sins along the way. Jesus already took care of that. By necessary and sufficient, I mean that for you Jesus dying on the cross was needed for you to get to Heaven, but it wasn't powerful enough, not strong enough to do the job. Only you are powerful enough to get yourself into Heaven. We say that Jesus dying on the cross was SO powerful that it sealed the entry into Heaven of ALL of the elect.
Also, salvation and entrance into heaven are two different things, so I've been told by Protestants.
To my mind, it's just a timing issue. One could make a case for up to four different "times" of being saved and all be correct. Predestination, Jesus on the cross, point of belief, entry into Heaven. "Salvation" can apply to any of these.