[HarleyD]

If suffering was supposed to be punishment from God for disobedience, then Eve certainly must have done much worse in God's eyes. Our (male) part is easy when it comes to babies...but then, funny, that's true of most animals, isn't it?

I think having a baby is not as worst as knowing that every baby you bring into the world is doomed to hell unless God steps in and saves that baby. But then the Orthodox's position is that there is no original sin, every baby is on their way to heaven. It's all a matter of perspective.

[kosta50]

I think having a baby is not as worst as knowing that every baby you bring into the world is doomed to hell unless God steps in and saves that baby. But then the Orthodox's position is that there is no original sin, every baby is on their way to heaven

Your ignorance of Orthodoxy is apalling given that you claim to study Patristics.

The Church teaches the same thing it taught for the last 2,000 years: we are all destined to die because of the original sin. Death is part of our fallen nature. What happens to the soul after death is a different story, but it's not necessarily destined to hell.

[D-fendr]

having a baby is not as worst as knowing that every baby you bring into the world is doomed to hell unless God steps in and saves that baby.

Telling the child this would also be on my list. Is this usually part of a Calvinist religious education to children? How young would they be when informed?