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To: jo kus; Dr. Eckleburg; irishtenor; suzyjaruki; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; fortheDeclaration; ...
Sorry but those examples that I gave you do indeed show that the Word of God is written to all who will ever hear it or read it. In the giving of the Great Commission in the High Priestley prayer in John 17 Jesus sends forth His disciples to bring in the sheep and to build His churches all over the world. The Great Commission is still ongoing in case you weren't aware of it. To do this they need the Truth and the Truth is God's Word.

John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

17:18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

When Paul was commissioned as the Apostle to the Gentiles then he spread the Word both in building new churches and in writing letters for their organization etc so that the worship would be conducted properly.

Peter was never in charge of any churches, either.

2 Cor 11:28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily , the care of all the churches.

7,737 posted on 09/30/2007 10:49:53 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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To: 1000 silverlings
Peter was never in charge of any churches, either.

How does the RCC reconcile that? Paul was entrusted with the care of the churches, with speading the word of God, and it was Paul who corrected Peter.

2 Cor 11:28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.

Amen. Score another one for Scripture.

7,740 posted on 09/30/2007 10:56:04 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings; jo kus; Dr. Eckleburg; irishtenor; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; fortheDeclaration
Sorry but those examples that I gave you do indeed show that the Word of God is written to all who will ever hear it or read it.

Yes 1000's, and RC's believe this too. If they didn't they would not have an objection to women holding the office of priest, a basis for headcoverings, etc., etc.

It is kind of amusing to think how women in the RCC might regard being in the priesthood if only oral tradition was presented to them as a reason for denial.

7,750 posted on 09/30/2007 1:01:41 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (Why?)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Peter was in Rome

As Peter had preached the Word publicly at Rome, and declared the Gospel by the Spirit, many who were present requested that Mark, who had followed him for a long time and remembered his sayings, should write them out.” Clement of Alexandria, fragment in Eusebius Church History, VI:14,6 (A.D. 190)

‘You have thus by such an admonition bound together the plantings of Peter and Paul at Rome and Corinth.” Dionysius of Corinth, Epistle to Pope Soter, fragment in Eusebius’ Church History, II:25 (c. A.D. 178).

“Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect, while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome, and laying the foundations of the Church.” Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 3:1:1 (c. A.D. 180).

You also said....
“”Peter was never in charge of any churches, either””

The Early Church Fathers don’t agree with you

“ I think it my duty to consult the CHAIR OF PETER, and to turn to a church whose faith has been praised by Paul The fruitful soil of Rome, when it receives the pure seed of the Lord, bears fruit an hundredfold My words are spoken to the successor of the fisherman, to the disciple of the cross. As I follow no leader save Christ, so I communicate with none but your blessedness, that is with the CHAIR OF PETER. FOR THIS, I KNOW, IS THE ROCK on which the CHURCH is built! This is the house where alone the paschal lamb can be rightly eaten. This is the ark of Noah, and he who is not found in it shall perish when the flood prevails.” Jerome, To Pope Damasus, Epistle 15:1-2 (A.D. 375).

“Supposing, as you assert, that some offence rested upon those persons, the case ought to have been conducted against them, not after this manner, but according to the Canon of the Church. Word should have been written of it to us all, that so a just sentence might proceed from all. For the sufferers were Bishops, and Churches of no ordinary note, but those which the Apostles themselves had governed in their own persons For what we have received from the BLESSED APOSTLE PETER, that I signify to you; and I should not have written this, as deeming that these things were manifest unto all men, had not these proceedings so disturbed us.” Athanasius, Pope Julius to the Eusebians, Defense Against the Arians, 35 (A.D. 347).

Dear Friend,
Are you suggesting these guys are lying?

You had better hope they were not liers,because they were involved in the Bible Canon process


7,753 posted on 09/30/2007 2:59:18 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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