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To: Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; kosta50; Kolokotronis
You will be even more of a force to be reckoned with. 8~)

Well, Harley is reading the Church Fathers. It is only a matter of time before he discovers how "un-Protestant" the Church was. Once he moves onto another subject that they write about besides free will, such as the Eucharist or Baptism...

Regards

7,666 posted on 09/29/2007 6:05:47 PM PDT by jo kus
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To: jo kus; HarleyD

RCC baptism is nothing like Protestant baptism. My children were not given some time-stamped free pass at their baptism. They were, however, baptized as a sign and seal of God’s eternal, holy and predestining love for His family.


7,669 posted on 09/29/2007 6:11:55 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: jo kus; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Kolokotronis
Well, Harley is reading the Church Fathers. It is only a matter of time before he discovers how "un-Protestant" the Church was

We can only hope and pray.

7,699 posted on 09/29/2007 9:44:46 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: jo kus; Dr. Eckleburg; kosta50; Kolokotronis
Well, Harley is reading the Church Fathers. It is only a matter of time before he discovers how "un-Protestant" the Church was.

I have been reading the Church Fathers for the last three years when I have a moment of time. If one keeps them in the proper context of time and events, then I find they are completely Protestant. You forget, it was Augustine and Cyprian with his question, "What do you have that hasn't been given you by God?" that made me a Calvinist. Cyprian convinced me. Not Calvin. Without minimizing his great works, Calvin only took the writings of the early fathers and refined them.

7,720 posted on 09/30/2007 3:48:59 AM PDT by HarleyD
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