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To: D-fendr
Which does not logically mean Suzy cannot have free will.

Of course she has free will. I've been saying that all along.

But, how many different worlds is it possible for God to conceive of? Don't you think He could have conceived of a world in which Sodom & Gomorrah repented?

Jesus said, "Woe to you Chorzin & Bethsaid, if the works done in you had been done in Sodom, they WOULD HAVE repented."

Why did God not create the world so that Sodom would have seen such works and then repented?

When God CREATED the end group of saved and damned became FIXED....predestined.

7,470 posted on 09/28/2007 5:45:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
Of course she has free will.… Why did God not create the world so that Sodom would have seen such works and then repented?… When God CREATED the end group of saved and damned became FIXED… predestined.

That's a much better way to put it, very close to what I've been postulating; however, I don't think it's pure Calvin.

The difference is between would not and could not. As I read your reply above, Sodom could but wouldn't repent, God foreknew this. As I read Calvinism, those that didn't repent, couldn't repent. There's a difference.

Thanks for your reply.

7,507 posted on 09/28/2007 11:28:03 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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