[HarleyD]

but you seem to have missed the "Without His grace.." part in my post.

No, I didn't miss it. It simply doesn't address the issue about who gives us our faith. I find Catholics tend to obfuscate the answer by plopping in grace and Protestants squirm in their seats. But few want to acknowledge the Author of our faith and don't wish to answer the question. They know where the answer will lead.

I hate to nag so since I'm not getting an answer I won't ask again, at least for the time being. William Shakespeare once said, "This above all, to thy own self be true." It's not scripture but there is a lot of true to it.

[D-fendr]

It simply doesn't address the issue about who gives us our faith.

Of course it does. It just isn't Calvinist enough for you.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Shakespeare was a Calvinist. And it's no coincidence the KJV was written during a time when language reached its eloquent zenith.

As God wills.