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To: kawaii
Please explain how he could die under the New Testament when the Old had yet to be fullfilled? The Temple was not yet destroyed, Christ had not yet risen, the Devil had not yet been confronted in Hell. what is clear from mark 16:16 is that both are necessary however baptism will not save apostates. the reason st john the forerunner is in the Bible is the need for both baptisms.

The curtain in the Temple had been ripped from top to bottom showing that access to God no longer was limited to a born priesthood.

Christ finished the requirements of the Law by his death and the thief died after Christ.

Apollos was preaching the Baptism of John the Baptist and was corrected by Aquilla and Priscla in Acts 18.

It was the wrong Baptism.

The Christian Baptism is found in Mat.28:19.

Spiritual baptism (which is what identifies the believer with Christ spiritually) is found in 1Cor.12:13).

Water Baptism is only a symbol of that spiritual baptism.

704 posted on 07/25/2007 12:15:22 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The curtain in the Temple had been ripped from top to bottom showing that access to God no longer was limited to a born priesthood.

Christ finished the requirements of the Law by his death and the thief died after Christ.


2 errors here. 1, the Levite priesthood wasn't simply mortal they were all of the same family, it was inherited, that is what changed, not the need for a priesthood. 2, If the prophecies of the ressurection had not been fullfilled there is now way Christ could be considered the messiah testified to in the Old Testament. Also the only scripture i can find which mentions the repentant thief is Luke which is abiguous as to when the good thief died.
709 posted on 07/25/2007 4:47:56 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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