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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50
Therefore, there is no need to go directly to Christ in prayer and ask for forgiveness and salvation. That is what the Church is for.

I pray this is not the case. As heated as we may be at times, the thought that any would not be saved is frightening. Reliance on a body of men for your eternal salvation makes no sense when our SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST came and took care of it.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

6,873 posted on 09/21/2007 8:17:28 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: wmfights

“As heated as we may be at times, the thought that any would not be saved is frightening”

Are you not of the Reformed persuasion?


6,877 posted on 09/21/2007 8:24:11 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: wmfights
I pray this is not the case. As heated as we may be at times, the thought that any would not be saved is frightening. Reliance on a body of men for your eternal salvation makes no sense when our SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST came and took care of it.

I hear you, and I pray the same. But for them God is a helper and man does the saving, both through individual free will and the rituals of the Church. Men like to think they have the power and are in full control. If Christ actually had all the power, and accomplished His mission in full, then it would necessarily mean less power for men. This, sadly, is untenable for them.

6,988 posted on 09/22/2007 4:42:16 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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