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To: wmfights
They undergo purification.
Purgatory isn’t a place; it is a process. Since nothing impure can enter the Kingdom of God, anyone judged worthy of entering it that is in a state of any sin in any way must be purified.
Purgatory is not expressly called out in Scripture, but we must come to the conclusion that it exists simply because of those two conditions.

6,807 posted on 09/20/2007 7:48:27 PM CDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6806 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

As you see, you were the one saying that purgatory was a process not a place. I really don't know a lot about this belief and was interested to find out what a RC thought. It seems your beliefs are so complicated and dependent upon your "tradition" and claims of exclusivity that even knowledgeable RC's can't explain them.

So what of the Scriptural justification?

What Scriptural justification. Even you said it is something that was not spelled out in SCRIPTURE and your as hard core RC as any poster here. You revel in your church history of killing and persecuting those Christians that refused to submit to your church's authority and beliefs.

Macabees is not SCRIPTURE and the quote from the New Testament has to be the most convoluted interpretation to claim it is about a "process".

1 and 2 Maccabees is Scripture and for the same reasons that Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John is, and the Gospel of James isn’t.

The Church under the divine influence of the Holy Spirit said so in a series of Councils.

The Church also defined Trinitarian beliefs.

So if you wish to pick and choose, then that reminds me of all these Cafeteria Catholics - let’s see, I’ll have one of those, I’ll pass on that, now that looks good - two of those please, I’ll only have half of that...

Purgatory isn’t complicated; I don’t know why you’d think so. When one dies, one is in a state of sin, however venial. One cannot get to Heaven unless one is pure (without sin). Therefore one undergoes a sanctification process that takes one from the sinful state to the pure one.

We ain’t the exclusivist elitist selectivist ones. Jesus has told us what the path to Heaven for all men is. The only ones who go to Hell are those who spurn God’s Grace freely offered to us. We believe that we must persevere until the end doing what He has instructed us to do. We must walk the narrow path; Jesus never instructed those men with implanted RF devices only to climb aboard the club car to Heaven. Coming up with that from Scripture takes a lot of imagination, and not a little demonic influence.

What a great departure from the Good News of Jesus Christ. What a great heresy to take His Message of Good News to all men and change it to only some, with the rest discarded like yesterday’s table scraps.