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To: D-fendr; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; P-Marlowe; xzins; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; 1000 silverlings; ...
What happened to the long view that God is eternal?

God's Name is I AM.

His Name is also Alpha and Omega.

Time is part of the Creation - not a restriction on the Creator.

In the absence of space, things cannot exist.

In the absence of time, events cannot occur.

Eternity is merely time without end.

"Timeless" is a more appropriate word/concept for meditating on the Name "I AM" of the Creator of time and space.

First Cause and Final Cause - God's Name is Alpha and Omega - applies to the whole Creation in which time, including eternity, is but a part. IOW, Final Cause is not the end point on a timeline.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. – Revelation 1:8

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. – Exodus 3:14

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. – John 8:58

Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send [it] unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. – Revelation 1:11

I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. – Revelation 1:18

Another meditation on timelessness wrt these Names of God is Revelation 5 and again in Revelation 13:

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. – Revelation 13:18

God is not time-bound. We are - and so is eternity.

To God be the glory!

6,739 posted on 09/19/2007 10:26:10 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
God is not time-bound. We are - and so is eternity.

Thanks but this doesn't apply to the question of God dying.

And, in time, it still leaves the question: What happened to the long view that God is without beginning and without end and everlasting? God being outside time does not mean God dies in time; that God is mortal rather than immortal.

I cannot see how God can kill God without there being two Gods and without contradicting the basic tenets we hold about God.

thanks very much for your reply...

6,747 posted on 09/20/2007 2:36:50 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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