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To: HarleyD

I posted on this passage some time ago.

The literal translation does not read ‘hated’ it actually reads loved less. God gave greater gifts to Jacob, and fewer to Esau.

This passage still does not support predestination to hell.


6,497 posted on 09/18/2007 1:30:42 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr
I posted on this passage some time ago. The literal translation does not read ‘hated’ it actually reads loved less. God gave greater gifts to Jacob, and fewer to Esau.

Not correct. Please note that Esau was not well written about in scripture.

Hbr 12:16-17 Lest there [be] any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

The word in Romans 9 is "miseo" which means to hate. It is used in such places as:

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

As you can see, these sentences would make no sense if the word was "loved less".

6,523 posted on 09/18/2007 5:37:25 AM PDT by HarleyD
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