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To: Dr. Eckleburg
hell is an objective place

If by this you mean it has a specific location, coordinates in time and space, where on earth, or in the universe, do think it might be?

If not, what do you mean by "objective place"?

5,765 posted on 09/08/2007 9:20:57 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr; Dr. Eckleburg; kosta50; hosepipe; Forest Keeper; irishtenor; suzyjaruki; P-Marlowe

“If not, what do you mean by “objective place”?”

John 13:33, “Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.”

36-37, “Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards. Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now?”

John 14:1-3, “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”

Jesus is speaking of a real place for the redeemed, and this is eshoed by Peter and John.

2Pet. 3:7, “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.......(10) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”

Rev. 21:1, “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea....(3) And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”

Where the redeemed are there can be no unbeliever so there must be separation.

Isa 11:9, “They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.”

Isa 65:25, “The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust [shall be] the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.”

Ther resurrected body is a real, body of flesh just as Jesus’ was and eats, drinks, can be touched and occupies space. It is not subject to death and dying or other physical limitations but it is localized as Jesus was and is now at the throne of power.


5,766 posted on 09/09/2007 8:53:39 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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