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To: irishtenor

I do not tread on irishtenor’s beliefs.

I do, however, believe that the belief of the creation and subsequent casting of the bulk of humanity into hellfire forever for no reason other than it’s the whim of the Almighty is a nasty belief. Especially when it completely contradicts the bulk of the Bible and practically the entire Gospels.

I believe that Calvinism is warped and twisted and completely unBiblical and completely opposite to the beliefs of the Church Fathers. I have debated with irishtenor and found, to this point anyway, that he is rational and serious and yet commmitted to this belief. How would you have me proceed?


5,701 posted on 09/07/2007 6:58:15 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr; irishtenor

Have a beer.


5,703 posted on 09/07/2007 7:01:48 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (Why?)
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To: MarkBsnr

***I believe that Calvinism is warped and twisted and completely unBiblical and completely opposite to the beliefs of the Church Fathers.***

Very well, I believe that your beliefs are completely incoherent and incomprehensable. You use bits and pieces of the Bible to make a point or two, but completely ignore or resent other parts of the Bible that YOU disagree with. Your arguments are childish, your tendancy to name call is immature, and your denigrating of those who do not believe as you do is uncalled for.

***How would you have me proceed?***

When you have a decent agrument, and wish to discuss what the Bible says about it, and you quit from the name calling, and are willing to listen to the other side in a respectful manner, you can post to me again.


5,706 posted on 09/07/2007 7:22:47 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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