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To: kosta50
***I don’t know what is worse, the assertion that God treats a segment of humans He created as pampered and spoiled kids who can do no wrong, or that He programmed them to please Him.***

Once again you confuse the issue with rhetoric and straw men. No one said that God’s elect can do no wrong. The very fact the God chose them shows that they were not able to choose him because of their sin. Also, They don't go around saying the things you implied, but they are the only one CAPABLE of pleasing God, because they ARE his children.

5,591 posted on 09/06/2007 11:01:13 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: irishtenor
Once again you confuse the issue with rhetoric and straw men. No one said that God’s elect can do no wrong

Oh please, these are word games the reformed are playing, sophistry of the worst kind! You need to acquaint yourself with Mr. Luther who proclaimed that even if he committed 1,000 murders and fornications a day God would forgive Him.

So, while the "elect" are capable of doing wrong, they are forgiven, which is like saying "you did nothing wrong." I guess it pleases God when His children commit 1,000 murders or fornications a day and He can just wave their sins away...and just lovingly say to them "My darlings..."

5,595 posted on 09/06/2007 11:19:11 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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