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To: irishtenor
I'm liking the background notion of freedom as the ability to choose the good. But where it gets hard to distinguish from "robot" is when one asks whether the one who has been given by God the freedom to choose the good can choose to turn away from God.

And one possible answer is that no one who has been given that freedom ever actually does turn away from God. So the "choice" exists in principle but is never actually made. But there would seem to be some Pauline passages which would suggest that it's a real possibility, since he seems to expend some rhetorical energy urging people NOT to make that choice.

5,557 posted on 09/06/2007 5:17:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

The choice is in obeying God or not. God will never lose one whom he calls a child. We can sin, and we often do, but we cannot lose the love of God once he has chosen us. The choice is to obey or not obey.


5,562 posted on 09/06/2007 6:24:52 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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