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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; wmfights; Alamo-Girl; blue-duncan; irishtenor; P-Marlowe; ...
Although maybe Scripture is "vague" for those who come to it veiled by vain repetitions and the traditions of men which could obscure most anything

LOL!

For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known —I Cor 13:12

 Can you describe love Dr. E? Can you color it? Can you weigh it? Does it have a shape? Can you buy it? How does one get it? How do you know what love is when you do get it?

We cannot define any of this. We can only give our own 'experience" and opinion about it. Invariably, it will be different from the person next to you. So, don't tell me that goodness and truth are black-and-white or clear-cut biblical concepts that everyone knows when you know darn well that they are not and that any attempt to prove it by words would invariably prove that each and every human beings has a different definition of these "clear-cut" and "black-and-white" sweeping generalizations!

5,550 posted on 09/06/2007 4:19:20 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; wmfights; Alamo-Girl; blue-duncan; irishtenor; P-Marlowe; xzins; ..
Can you describe love Dr. E?...we cannot define any of this.

lol. Is that a difficult question for you, Kosta? Just what's in your Bible?

"And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it." -- 2 John 1:6

That is how the creature displays love for the Creator which is the first and primary love of our lives.

Further, Christ tells us what love is between men...

"This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." -- John 15:12-13

So Scripture gives you your answer, Kosta. And it's certainly not generalized, but quite specific. For men, love is doing God's will and caring for the welfare of another over yourself. Both these things were accomplished by Christ to illustrate exactly what love is.

And further, since whenever I search the Scriptures I find even more than I desired, look at what else Christ says...

"Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you." -- John 15:3

Do you think Christ is speaking in generalities here, or is He specifically telling believers that He, the very word of God, has cleansed them of their sins?

5,564 posted on 09/06/2007 7:10:21 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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