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To: irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg
No one knows whom God has chosen, that is why we must tell the gospel to all we meet

Dr. E seems to think otherwise. She even knows that her children are among the elect (because, quote "God gave them to" her!)! But, then, no one expects concordance among 33,000-plus man-made "denominations."

When you guys work this one out, then maybe you can tell me what the Portestants believe. Otherwise I am dealing with millions of individual theologies...and that's way too much to handle.

5,427 posted on 09/04/2007 11:25:28 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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IRISH TENOR: No one knows whom God has chosen, that is why we must tell the gospel to all we meet

KOSTA: Dr. E seems to think otherwise. She even knows that her children are among the elect (because, quote "God gave them to" her!)! But, then, no one expects concordance among 33,000-plus man-made "denominations."

It's just not that tricky, Kosta. In fact, it's quite simple to grasp from Scripture.

None of us knows the names of the elect, or we would be God. But we have His assurance that if we have been given Trinitarian faith in His son, Jesus Christ, then we are numbered among His children. That's what Scripture tells us in black and white and that's the understanding the Holy Spirit gives us of those Scriptures.

The rest of the world we can only presume to know. But we have pretty good indicators in the evidence of men's lives (always mindful that "whatsoever is not of faith is sin" -- Romans 14:23.) And this learning comes from the lips of Christ Himself, no less...

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit." -- Matthew 7:16-18

So again, your argument is with God and Scripture, Kosta, not with those who preach His word.

As far as our children are concerned, Scripture tells us the promise was made to believers and their families since it is God who creates families in the first place. I trust God. Therefore, I trust He will guide my children to Him.

"She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet." -- Proverbs 31:21

Is your household clothed in the blood of Christ, Kosta?

Funny thing is, the more a parent believes that to be the way of things, the more it becomes true. Almost like it was supposed to be that way.

Do you have children, Kosta?

5,449 posted on 09/05/2007 11:07:53 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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