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To: Forest Keeper

You know, it’s odd. We are so much on the same wavelength so much of the time.

We Catholics understand that we are not worthy of God and everlasting life with Him. Check.

We Catholics understand that God is forever there holding out His saving Grace to us. Check.

We Catholics understand that God’s saving Grace is ours to accept or deny. Check.

We Catholics understand that God wants all of humanity to accept Him willingly. XXXXX.

We Catholics understand that we can reject God after having accepted Him. XXXXX.

We Catholics understand that God wants us worship Him with all of our hearts, minds and strength. Check.

These posts can be very useful in bringing us together.


5,376 posted on 09/04/2007 6:36:16 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50
You know, it’s odd. We are so much on the same wavelength so much of the time.

I agree with much of your list. And, in the interests of honesty, I would add some comments. On God holding out saving grace, I could "massage" what you said to agree with it, i.e. God holds out the saving grace for the elect from the foundation of the world. Not sure if that still counts as a "check", but I'll take it if it does. :)

On saving grace being ours to accept or deny, we Reformers could not agree to that. That would violate the "I" in TULIP. :) However, most Protestants COULD agree to that.

On rejecting God after accepting Him, I might give that one a check. Our difference is on whether it can normally be permanent or not. However, we also believe that God does, in some cases, take the person home before he loses his salvation. Technically, that might be seen as a permanent rejection "in progress", but not allowed to be completed. That's gotta be worth at least a half a check. :)

These posts can be very useful in bringing us together.

I agree. Most of the time it takes some "mutual nuancing" to agree on some of the language, but I've found that it can be done more often than I would have expected. This is true especially in many of the Patristic writings that Kosta has shared with me.

5,534 posted on 09/06/2007 11:16:07 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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