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To: D-fendr
You to another poster: The discussion has become to personal for me to continue in this vein...

Don't fall for that! Without making light of anyone's loss, the words "the Lord took him" are not the same as "God killed him."

They would have you believe that God created death as well as life. That is a lie Satan wants everyone to believe. God did everything to free us from death. The Holy Spirit is called the Giver of Life, the Comforter. Is that the same "spirit of God" who kills Egyptian firstborn?

The Christ known to the Church is the Christ of the Sermon on the Mount. Not the angry God of the OT or God who creates mankind destined for eternal suffering.

Remember: if it's not comforting it's not from God; it i's not life it's not from God; if you can't find love in it; it's not from God. Killing innocent children is not from God. Death is not from God. Hate is not from God. Loving oneself is not from God.

Do not fall for the satanic deception that makes God the source of good and of evil. Those who have been deceived will tell you that He is.

5,359 posted on 09/03/2007 11:17:36 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

***Death is not from God.***

So all of the Bible verses that tell of God killing people are wrong? False? Incorrect? Not Biblical?


5,417 posted on 09/04/2007 7:50:18 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: kosta50; D-fendr; blue-duncan; irishtenor
Without making light of anyone's loss, the words "the Lord took him" are not the same as "God killed him."

Sure they are. For us, both have a sovereign God being an actor, not a mere reactor, as you must believe. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought you said at one time that it was our sin that caused our physical death. If so, then why do some of the worst sinners live to ripe old ages, and some who have never sinned, in addition to some of the greatest warriors for Christ die young? For you, it has to be a matter of chance. If God is not in control then who or what is?

In fact, if I had become earthly separated from one of my children, I would be most tempted to feel bitterness against God if He WASN'T in control in calling my child home. I would be tempted to be angry at His WEAKNESS.

The Christ known to the Church is the Christ of the Sermon on the Mount. Not the angry God of the OT or God who creates mankind destined for eternal suffering.

Astounding admission, but very consistent. :) Your Church does not know the God portrayed in the OT, and believe He is a different God from the one portrayed in the NT. You don't trust God's full revelation of Himself in scripture, but only accept the parts that you like. Of course this leads to a very incomplete understanding of God.

5,513 posted on 09/06/2007 4:05:47 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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